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House wants to give curfew to adults.....


Anyone heard anything about Senate Bill 16?

Here are the highlights for it:

Senate Bill 16 Highlights:

- No Adult oriented business will remain open between 12:00 midnight and 6:00 a.m. on any day...
- Any nude employee shall remain at least six feet from all customers at all times...
- No employee, while nude or seminude, knowingly shall touch any customer or the clothing of any customer...


Check out http://www.stopthehouse.com/sb16.php for more.....

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idiots ....

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Photogrrlz wrote:

Anyone heard anything about Senate Bill 16?

Here are the highlights for it:

Senate Bill 16 Highlights:

- No Adult oriented business will remain open between 12:00 midnight and 6:00 a.m. on any day...
- Any nude employee shall remain at least six feet from all customers at all times...
- No employee, while nude or seminude, knowingly shall touch any customer or the clothing of any customer...


Check out http://www.stopthehouse.com/sb16.php for more.....




Never heard of it and dont care.....I dont go to those places and the only nude man I allow to be close to me is my husband. He is allowed to stand as close as he wants when he is "neked"  Let me know when they start fining me for that.....
I thik that is already a rule over here. My sister in law was arrested at her bachelorette party for touching a male dancer.

The 6 feet rule is a good thing.....crabs cant jump that far. Better safe than sorry.



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Bread it also includes having bars closed between 12am and 6am

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Photogrrlz wrote:

Bread it also includes having bars closed between 12am and 6am




I turn into a pumpkin at midnight. I dont go to bars anymore.....if I am awake at midnight, I am watching a scary movie or at a family thing.....half asleep. I am a mother, remember.....I work 90 hours a week or more; I live on a few hours of sleep and never am in full REM. This a.m. I was finally getting some dream sleep this a.m. when hubby woke me up...no scared me up to iron a shirt for him. The scary thing is that I did it without complaining; I think I was still asleep. that cant be good....operating an iron while sleeping. . I have a headache in the back of my head that makes me wonder if my brain is swollen. Who needs bars?   

My partying days are over. If bars closed at midnight when I was younger, I would have graduated from college a lot sooner.

I guess I should care because this is just the first step to the government controlling our lives in every way. What next....."no sex between the hours of 6 a.m. and 12 midnight." 

Thanks for providing the info......we are close to being one of those "Lets stone her because she is talking to a man without a legal guardian" places, huh? 



-- Edited by Bread Styx at 09:49, 2007-05-04

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Bread Styx wrote:

I guess I should care because this is just the first step to the government controlling our lives in every way. What next....."no sex between the hours of 6 a.m. and 12 midnight." 

Thanks for providing the info......we are close to being one of those "Lets stone her because she is talking to a man without a legal guardian" places, huh? 


-- Edited by Bread Styx at 09:49, 2007-05-04

AMEN!!!!! When you look at the bigger picture it really is just one more step toward total control by our government! It doesn't matter if it directly points at you, when it is taking away a freedom, it will effect you in the long run!hmmfurioushmm



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I was wondering where you were.


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Wonder how this is going to effect Nevada where prostitution is legal ...

I keep saying it's time to storm the capital and throw the bums out ... but no one is listening ...

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Probably not at all, as I think that bill is specifically for Ohio (unless I read it wrong).

I think it's ridiculous, though.

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Ohio ... last I herd it was perfectly legal for a woman to walk down the street topless in Ohio ...



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well in houston they just reduced an hour for the childrens curfew. they are trying to tax and close titty bars and ...(theres another one but I just cant think of it right now)

the titty bars are like, well they can put on a "little " more something and get around that tax, as soon as that curfew was rasied form midnight to 11 PM for the kids to be in- it was in effect, which not every one was in favor or even knew.

gob'ment should not be telling us when our children can and can not be out. If a parent fails to deal and work with the child thats where other acgencys come into play. To do this is the gob'ment raisng the children, and thats what hitler did. He said it, and no one questioned it. furious

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How strip clubs plan to dance around law
If entertainers wear bikinis, some cabarets would be able to avoid being shut down by city


By MATT STILES
Copyright 2007 Houston Chronicle


Targeted establishments
NewsWatch: City Hall: The list of businesses
Locations of businesses



WHY IS HYATT REGENCY HOUSTON ON THE LIST?

The city sent 123 businesses letters Thursday notifying them they do not comply with Houston's sexually oriented businesses ordinance. The list included one curious entry: The Hyatt Regency Houston.

Why: The Hyatt's sales director, Stan Skadal, said Houston police vice officers required a permit two years ago after the hotel booked an invitation-only party for a local radio station. The event featured nudity. The vice officers had the hotel served with a letter because it's near a church and day care center.

Next: Skadal said the hotel doesn't plan to offer a similar event in the future, and plans to return the permit next week. "It's a tempest in a teapot," he said.
Facing a looming city crackdown on sexually oriented businesses, some strip clubs in Houston have a fallback strategy to keep their operations open: requiring their dancers to cover up.

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Topless and fully nude clubs could avoid regulation altogether if their dancers wear bikinis, or even skimpier opaque coverings, allowing them to get around the "sexually oriented" classification, police and city officials acknowledged.

That would allow the clubs to remain open at their current locations, despite an ordinance now prohibiting them from operating within 1,500 feet of churches, schools, parks and residential areas.

"If they do, that's within the law," said Capt. Steve Jett, who heads the Houston police vice division, which regulates the clubs, along with adult bookstores, "modeling" studios and other places now targeted under the ordinance.

"If they don't, we've got investigations already going, and we will continue those investigations and make arrests in the fairly near future," he said.

The clubs' strategy has been under consideration for some time, as the deep-pocketed leaders of Houston's adult industry have waged a court battle with the city since a tougher ordinance was passed in 1997.

A federal judge ruled in March that the city could enforce the location restrictions in the ordinance, a provision that could keep so-called sex businesses from operating in large swaths of Houston's core.

After promising aggressive enforcement in the wake of the ruling, the city mailed more than 120 such businesses letters on Thursday, notifying them that they must close their operations or face criminal or civil penalties. Employees and owners could face Class A misdemeanor charges punishable by a year in jail and a $4,000 fine.

At least two clubs have requested a stay of enforcement with the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans.

But the bikini loophole offers a contingency to dozens of topless and nude clubs, known as cabarets, should that effort fail.

"In the industry, there has been significant discussion about how businesses could change their method of operation and become compliant under the ordinance," said the owner at one of Houston's largest topless clubs who asked for anonymity out of fear that his employees would be targeted first.


Would customers still visit?
Such a loophole exists because the ordinance uses specified anatomical areas and activities to define sexually oriented businesses. If employees in the businesses strategically place opaque clothing on certain body parts, and they're careful not to simulate sexual acts, those operations would be exempt.

"If you have the proper coverage, then it takes you out of the ordinance," said Nelson Hensley, a lawyer who recently filed state lawsuits on behalf of some adult businesses related to amortization, a process of allowing them to recoup their investments before closing or moving.

With bikinis, the clubs would be able to operate anywhere, subject to state alcohol regulations and local deed restrictions, city lawyers said. They also wouldn't have to comply with other restrictions in the sexually oriented businesses ordinance, such as rules prohibiting close contact between entertainers and patrons.

What's not clear is whether those customers, used to seeing topless or nude entertainers, will stop visiting the establishments.

"I still think it will be a profitable business," said Thomas Venza, a manager at Centerfolds Adult Entertainment in the 6100 block of Richmond.

But some who support the ordinance disagree.

"They're going to be trying to adapt an ad-hoc business plan to an existing format. That isn't going to work," said City Councilman Adrian Garcia, a former police officer who chairs the council's public safety committee. "At some point, customers will be looking for the real thing, and they will be going somewhere else."

Former Councilman Jew Don Boney, who helped craft the ordinance a decade ago, said he doesn't believe the city legally can prevent a business from featuring bikini-clad women.

That doesn't mean he approves, he said.

"This is not really about what part of the body is exposed, from my perspective. It is about the kind of behavior," he said. "We've got some issues with our social values and norms that I think are unhealthy for the nation. I fully support adults' rights to behavior that I would not condone, but we have to be very careful about what we're doing to our society."

Industry leaders disagree, saying the businesses are constitutionally protected establishments with a broad customer base that's reflected by the millions of dollars in sales, beverage and property taxes they pay government.


No loophole for bookstores
The bikini loophole presumably wouldn't apply to adult bookstores, which typically sell magazines and videos featuring sexual acts and fully nude subjects.

Modeling studios or spas, which police say can serve as fronts for prostitution, also would no longer be able to feature topless or nude employees if they are located within restricted areas.

Despite the loophole, Councilwoman Toni Lawrence said the ordinance still is important. She said she believes it will help neighborhoods and businesses opposed to having establishments nearby.

"This is a chess match," she said.

"Sometimes you lose the battle, but the big picture is that you want to win the war."

Martin Ziddell, the owner of Dare Wear, a lingerie and clothing store in the 6300 block of Westheimer, said he fears that the crackdown could have a ``ripple effect'' on other businesses.

His customers include ``many dancers'' from nearby clubs, he said.

The crackdown ``is not going to affect just those businesses, but many of the other businesses in this area, who rely on the incomes of people who work as dancers, waitresses and bartenders,'' Ziddell said. ``Fortunately for the local economy, the people who work in those businesses make good money. And they spend it."



Chronicle reporter Anne Marie Kilday contributed to this report.



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Juveniles must be off streets an hour earlier
Those 16 and younger ordered to be home by 11 p.m. on weeknights, council decides


By ALEXIS GRANT
Copyright 2007 Houston Chronicle



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NewsWatch: City Hall Thoughts on new teen curfew?
CLOCK IS TICKING

Old rule: Children 17 and younger must be off the streets between midnight and 6 a.m. every day.
New rule: Children 16 and younger must be off the streets before 11 p.m. on weeknights and midnight on Friday and Saturday nights.

Source: City of Houston

OTHER CITY COUNCIL ACTION

Rock-crushing sites: Approved an ordinance that prohibits rock-crushing companies from opening new sites within 1,500 feet of residential areas, parks, schools, churches and other concrete-recycling facilities, and requires existing facilities to obtain a $500 city permit annually. The law prohibits Southern Crushed Concrete from grinding rocks in the future at its lot on Bellfort near Texas 288.
Trash pickup: Approved several trash-related measures recommended by the mayor's solid waste task force that would require developers to submit a solid waste collection plan as part of the subdivision planning process and would redefine which residences are eligible for city garbage pickup. The rules also would reduce the volume of heavy trash residents can dispose of each month from 40 cubic yards to 8 cubic yards about the size of a small commercial trash bin.

Source: City of Houston
Nights got a little shorter for most teenagers following changes to the city's curfew passed Wednesday.

Children under 17 must be off the streets by 11 p.m. on weeknights instead of the previous midnight rule, under revisions to the curfew ordinance approved by the City Council. It takes effect immediately.

"On school nights, you should be at home asleep and doing your schoolwork," said Mayor Bill White. "Unless you're working or working on some sort of school project, you don't need to be running around on the streets after 11 o'clock."

The ordinance includes existing exceptions for teenagers who are accompanied by a parent, traveling to work, participating in events sponsored by a school, government, church group or sports organization, or involved in an emergency.

All others now are prohibited from being on the streets after 11 p.m. on weeknights and midnight on weekends, including during summer months when school is not in session.

The previous curfew had been in place since 1991 and applied to children under 18, setting the deadline at midnight every night.

The midnight curfew still stands on Friday and Saturday nights, as well as on the eve of holidays.

Several parents said they support the new rules, though most said they preferred the law also apply to 17-year-olds.

"I think it's awesome that they're getting strict on these kids," said Jody Wilding, a Meyerland resident who has a 16-year-old son. "They have no business being out at 11 o'clock on a school night, I don't care how old they are."

The city's curfew ordinance includes daytime restrictions when school is in session, requiring children under 17 to be off the streets from 9 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. The council made no changes to that rule.

Council members debated the issue for 40 minutes during Wednesday's meeting before the panel approved the new limits 11-3. Ada Edwards, Addie Wiseman and Michael Berry voted against the measure.

"We have now taken over the role of parents," Berry said. "When we make it a crime to be outside your home, and not breach the peace, I have a big problem with that."


Crime-fighting tool
The Houston Police Department had pushed for the earlier curfew, saying it would help deter crime committed by and against juveniles.

Edwards said she doubts forcing an earlier deadline on teenagers will help reduce crime. Several council members also raised concerns during previous meetings that HPD doesn't have the personnel to enforce an earlier curfew.

Violators face a citation that carries a $173 fine, but often are offered the option of performing community service instead, allowing them to keep the misdemeanor off their records. About half of violators take that route, according to a Houston Chronicle analysis of municipal court records late last year.

More than 4,500 citations were issued in 2006, about two-thirds of them daytime violations, according to police data. The number of night curfew violations has decreased every year since 2003, dropping to about 1,460 in 2006.


Stricter option defeated
The council last year considered rolling the curfew back even further, to 10 p.m., but several members said that was too strict. The panel also held several public forums at that time and heard from parents and students on both sides of the issue.

Gayle Pechacek, a Timbergrove parent, said Wednesday that an 11 p.m. curfew is appropriate for her 14-year-old son.

"A curfew is vitally important for kids because they need that structure, and sometimes it's really difficult for parents to enforce rules that society doesn't back up," she said. "This just gives (parents) a little more power."




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13 Undercover investigates educators' test scores
A 13 Undercover exclusive
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(5/11/07 - KTRK/HOUSTON) - There are new lessons from 13 Undercover on whether Houston area school teachers are making the grade. Hear from a teacher not afraid to talk to 13 Undercover about the trouble she's having proving she is competent to teach. We will also show parents what else they have a right to know about the teacher in their child's classroom.


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This link will allow you to check the certification record of all Texas educators. If you do not find your teacher, it could mean their name was not changed after marriage. You have a right to ask your local school district for the teachers certification.
The final bell rings at south Houston intermediate school. Class is over for the day. But soon, a teaching career may be over for Loretta Lacour because the school has given her one more chance to prove she's competent to teach.

"I have no choice or I don't have a job," she told us.

Loretta passed the basic minimum skills teaching test the first time around with a 70 -- the lowest possible score.

"It's the core part that I'm having a problem passing," said Lacour.

That means the subject Lacour actually teaches. In this case, English

"I read avidly," she told us. "I'm a reading teacher."


Her first love is Shakespeare.

"I want to teach Shakespeare and Chauncer," she told us.

Actually it's Chaucer, but Lacour hasn't been teaching Shakespeare. She's been teaching seventh grade.

"I'm stuck in that position until I pass that test," she said.

Her bookshelves are filled with teacher test preparation materials, but it hasn't helped.

"It's never more than six points more that I didn't make it," said Lacour.

"An F is an F," we told her.

"Yea, I know," she said.

No other English teacher in 44 Houston area school districts have failed the English teaching test more than Loretta has -- 14 times.

"That's $82 each time," she said.

"That's also an F each time," we said.

"Yeah, I know," she said.

Once she failed by just one point.

"Each time I feel I know I passed and it's gotten to two points, one point and I'm thinking, 'one point'?" she said.

"Now you know how the kids feel," we said.

"I already knew how the kids feel," she said.

Lacour failed the test five times in 2006, but she was allowed to teach again this year.

"There's just no research that infers the number of times you take the exam determine how good of a teach you are or how well your students perform," said Shirley Neeley, commissioner of the Texas Education Agency.

So why is the standard different for our children? If kids fail just one part of one TAKS test, they can't graduate.

"I don't think a graduation should be based on a test score," said Lacour.

You may not have known until this week you had a right to get the scores teacher make on their competency tests. Under the federal No Child Left Behind Act, you have other questions you have a right to ask your school.

1, Whether the teacher has met state qualification for their grade and subject
2. If the teacher has an emergency permit
3. The degrees held by the teacher and in what subjects
4. Whether your child is provided services by paraprofessionals, and if so, their qualifications.
"I don't know that most parents really sit and question if teacher is fully certified," said Neely. "I think they are most interested in the relationship students have with their teachers, how well they're doing."

That's what Lacour hopes because her kids are learning from a teacher who has not proven she is competent under state law to teach them.

"My kids learn and I make sure they learn," she said.

Eighty-five percent of all Texas teachers pass this test the first time around. If you appreciate the job they're doing with your kids, tell them that they're making the grade in more ways than one.

Do you want to check your child's teacher or district? Look up teacher test scores, a link to the states teaching certificates and a breakdown of school districts as well as the percentage of their teachers who have passed tests.
(Copyright © 2007, KTRK-TV)

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The reason this one has so many pissed is due that kids MUST pass the TASK test to get the diploma. The teachers can take it as many times as they need to, and teach even when they are not passing it. double standard. and how can you teach what you dont know.
plus the test is nothing but politcs, and politcs is not education.

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so what will they come up with next????

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texaschickeee wrote:

How strip clubs plan to dance around law
If entertainers wear bikinis, some cabarets would be able to avoid being shut down by city



So what would Marvin Zindler say? Ya know, he was the one who got the infamous Chicken Ranch shut down in La Grange.



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