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Shold MOST attorneys be burned at the stake? [12 vote(s)]

No, they are just doing their job
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Sure, they are sort of slimey most of the time
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HELL YEAH! I'll get the charcoal!!
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Alright....I'm sitting here looking at a set of interrogatories from my ex's attorney.


This jackass is wanting documentation (THAT definition is a page and a half long btw)......for things that I prolly never had...and if I did have....I would not be able to locate them (because the bitch kept 3/4 of my office...including said documentation), AND this for TWO dates... wedding day in 96 and now.


 


Who keeps records of bills from 10 years ago?



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FUCK LAWYERS


 


 



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send a statement back tht you dont have the biills, and if he needs them then your ex should be able to produce bamk staements for payments.


 


as toby said, fuck 'em


 


and I know about the page and half of the bullshit writing to state it... ask the damn question fool.



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send a statement back tht you dont have the biills, and if he needs them then your ex should be able to produce bamk staements for payments.   as toby said, fuck 'em   and I know about the page and half of the bullshit writing to state it... ask the damn question fool.



Well....I have actually been thinking about this.  From what I hear...this guy is charging her about $250 an hour....and billing her 1/10 an hour for even mentioning her name to my attorny as they pass in the hall  LOL 


So...maybe I should send over like two friggin garbage bags full of semi associated (or not even remotely associated for that matter...)   "documentations'  .......and let HIM sort it out  *snicker*  


 



-- Edited by zap at 21:36, 2006-02-10

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Not all of them are slime. It all depends on what type of Law they do.


I voted no only because my father is an Attorney but he also doesn't do divorce. He does mostly wills,probate and estate planning.


 


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I work at a University that caters to upper-level undergrad., graduate studies, and JD. We have some law professors (former/current lawyers) that are ok. We also have some that I wish I could send to Tehran for torture and imprisonment for the duration of their lives.

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I read half a book once.....It was called "The Case Against Lawyers"


Got to pissed off to read the rest.


Screw'em



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Yeah, everyone hates lawyers until you need one.

Personally, I've never had an issue with lawyers collectively. There have been a few obnoxious individuals that happen to be lawyers that just got on my nerves, but the majority of them are just out doing their job, same as us.

I try not to take things done in the courtroom personally, save money on anacids that way.

-- Edited by Centurion44 at 05:57, 2006-02-11

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Yeah....I have some good friends who are attorneys....  why I specified MOST in the question


 


However, I have known far more slimball attorneys that good ones.  ....and that is on BOTH sides of criminal cases and both sides of EVERY other legal issue.


 


Hell...the worst slimball attorney I ever met was my attorney in my first divorce.  He told me he wasn't going to touch anything else til he got another rather large deposit...  after he got it...he withdrew the next day.  



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zap wrote:


  He told me he wasn't going to touch anything else til he got another rather large deposit...  after he got it...he withdrew the next day.  


that by all accounts should be reported to the bar.


he was slimy.


One that I never met, but had a very profound afect on my life, was my mothers first in the divorce of my father.


He was side dealing with his legal reps and was going to sell her out. she droped him, got this great one and walked away with so mch more then she thought she could.


 


but most of the time they come off as slime.


esp. legal defense ones. but someone has to defend the POS.



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Yup...I agree.


Most seem like slime at least half the time.


 


As for that particular POS....I tried to get a malpractice attorney to go after him....  but they were as bad or worse so figured he would get his somewhere someway someday.


 


I guess I just object to being crammed through a wringer just because he can.  THAT is frustrating....especially since I'm not the bad guy in all this as they are trying to paint me as. 



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I have seen more good attornies than bad. And, I too have friends that are lawyers. It's a job, no different than any other, there are good people and bad in any type of employment. Some people are just "designed" to be a lawyer and argue the facts well. When you are the one on the other side of this arguement, of course it's annoying????!!!! No one likes to go to court (do they?).


I agree with Centurion44, everyone complains about attornies until they need one!



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Zap, the attorney will try to screw you over just to watch you "snap" and do something stupid that give your bitchy ex an advantage...keep your cool.


My brothers wife filed a year ago and they are still bouncing back and forth with her demands that she changes every month......makes me wonder. I think she just wants to see my brother squirm and my mom thinks she just wants more time to see if can work out. I call B.S. on that one because my  ex sis in law is so full of hate, it makes me sick. I am th eonly one she speaks to along with my mom. I told her a few months ago that she needs to watch out because whatever she does to him, she does to me and my parents ..and siblings. She is not speaking to my sisters because they have not offered their support to her......long story.   


Make your own list of items you owned BEFORE you were married and make sure you can prove it was yours and get them......get a court order to go and remove your items from your house if she wont let you in....that is your right. My sister in law accused my brother of stealing from the IRS and I warned her that she was not financially educated in matters of the sort and neither was her feminazi attorney who just wanted her to get more from my brother so she could get a bigger percent from the psycho wife.


 I also know my brother. He wouldnt steal. Well, I was right. My brother had all his reciepts and documents to prove that she was wrong ....right in front of the judge and her bitch attorney. I would have paid money to be there to see her face when the judge told her that her accusations were unfounded...to find some other reason to divorce my brother. a month later, she and her attorney came up with some new reasons and new demands regarding property......she failed again. These reasons even made me laugh.


I dont know why she cant just say she wants out and does not love him anymore. But I guess that is too easy and she would not get as much money from him to see him shamed...that bitch....she isnt just trying to put my brother down..she is doing it to all of us.


sorry, I just needed to vent about this...have not done so in awhile.


 



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zap...did you file for the divorce or did your wife file?



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zap wrote:


Well....I have actually been thinking about this.  From what I hear...this guy is charging her about $250 an hour....and billing her 1/10 an hour for even mentioning her name to my attorny as they pass in the hall  LOL  So...maybe I should send over like two friggin garbage bags full of semi associated (or not even remotely associated for that matter...)   "documentations'  .......and let HIM sort it out  *snicker*    -- Edited by zap at 21:36, 2006-02-10

Sounds like you've been thinking of ways to play "the game" to me????? Divorce is never easy, but people only make it worse when they decide to play games during the divorce..... No good can come from this thought process? Get over the games and just get through the divorce....

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zap...did you file for the divorce or did your wife file?



Very long story.  Here are the main points as brief as I can be.


1) I am convinced she has a mental disorder, bipolar maybe, as do most every one we know. I tried for about a year to get her to counseling and medical/psyciatric evaluation to no avail.  (Even the counselor told me to get out there was no way to make this work since she refused to even try.  Further...that there was absolutely nothing wrong with me.)


2) When I started the academy, she quit her job.  (tried to force me into a factory job)


3) Right in the middle of the academy, she claimed I pushed her while admiting to coming after me with a metal pipe and punching me in the throat.  (we are both martial artists...she knew what she was doing)  Therefore, I was arrested and charged with a DV that was later dismissed...but I was never able to recover my property.


4) I filed the divorce as soon as I could get an attorney.  After all...this happened the DAY AFTER CHRISTMAS!


5) I HAVE a court order for the property that will be a year old on March 4.  We are now waiting for the contempt hearing since they continued the final divorce hearing the middle of December, and have not set a new date.


6)  We have had settlement conferences, and hearings...but she refuses to concede anything even though so far the judge and GAL have landed on my side of the table.


7) What looks like "playing the game" is actually an attempt to put enough pressure on her side to force her to some resolution so I CAN GET THIS BEHIND ME.


 


......and before you say it....this is NOT the woman I married.  She is now totally different.  The past year I was there I had no idea which personality I would be dealing with when I walked into the room.  I simply did all that I could do.  Had I cut and run earlier....I would not be in the middle of this BS dv thing trying to get on departments.


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-- Edited by zap at 17:11, 2006-02-16

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you listed #4 twice....lmbo....


sorry....just had to do it????!



-- Edited by KatScratch at 17:02, 2006-02-16

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you listed #4 twice....lmbo.... sorry....just had to do it????!-- Edited by KatScratch at 17:02, 2006-02-16

LOL  ok so I can't count for shit when i'm pissed off  

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Sorry...just had to do it!

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KatScratch wrote:



Sorry...just had to do it!



 


Ok....you're forgiven...


 


 


I think....


 


....well maybe.....




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.....maybe????? LOL In that case 4, 4, 4, 4, 4!!!!!

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*holy cats....knocked her wings off even*


 


*revisiting the issue.......*


 


 


*thinking*


 


*wait a minute....she doesn't HAVE wings   *



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*holy cats....knocked her wings off even*   *revisiting the issue.......*     *thinking*   *wait a minute....she doesn't HAVE wings   *

but I have claws.......and I can count! ROFLOL......

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zap wrote: *holy cats....knocked her wings off even*   *revisiting the issue.......*     *thinking*   *wait a minute....she doesn't HAVE wings   * but I have claws.......and I can count! ROFLOL......


 


LOL  too funny 



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Here are the main points as brief as I can be. 1) I am convinced she has a mental disorder, bipolar maybe, as do most every one we know. I tried for about a year to get her to counseling and medical/psyciatric evaluation to no avail.  (Even the counselor told me to get out there was no way to make this work since she refused to even try.  Further...that there was absolutely nothing wrong with me.) 2) When I started the academy, she quit her job.  (tried to force me into a factory job) 3) Right in the middle of the academy, she claimed I pushed her while admiting to coming after me with a metal pipe and punching me in the throat.  (we are both martial artists...she knew what she was doing)  Therefore, I was arrested and charged with a DV that was later dismissed...but I was never able to recover my property. 4) I filed the divorce as soon as I could get an attorney.  After all...this happened the DAY AFTER CHRISTMAS! 5) I HAVE a court order for the property that will be a year old on March 4.  We are now waiting for the contempt hearing since they continued the final divorce hearing the middle of December, and have not set a new date. 6)  We have had settlement conferences, and hearings...but she refuses to concede anything even though so far the judge and GAL have landed on my side of the table. 7) What looks like "playing the game" is actually an attempt to put enough pressure on her side to force her to some resolution so I CAN GET THIS BEHIND ME.   ......and before you say it....this is NOT the woman I married.  She is now totally different.  The past year I was there I had no idea which personality I would be dealing with when I walked into the room.  I simply did all that I could do.  Had I cut and run earlier....I would not be in the middle of this BS dv thing trying to get on departments.


After re-reading this and some other posts....it sounds like a "typical" case really. Divorce is almost always a "he said, she said" with 2 sides to every story. Just like the telephone game we all used to play in grade school, stories change the more they are told.... I'm sure you have your points and so does she, but it doesn't change the "game" factor that always seems to happen in divorces, and no one likes to be the "bad guy/gal" in divorce....just turns out that way. Lawyers just get paid to paint a picture and hope the judge chooses their picture?


Still not the lawyers fault.....just doin a job, nothing more, nothing less. How they do the job depends on the people involved and how they deliver the details for the picture.... 



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I have to comment on this. As far as the "good VS bad" attorneys, I have had allot of them and I have found most of the attorneys I couldn't stand were the best I had on my side. Simply put, you want a pick on your side when it come to law. They make a ton of money simply being the kind of asshole they truely are, in most cases. So, personally I no longer judge attorneys by who and what they are, I focus more on how the hell we got to the point were people of such a nature are so needed in society. And if I had to look for one of the roots of the problem, I think "zaps - just send a butt load over there to screw everyone", would probably be a start. Just a thought.



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Yeah.....  I agree actually with both of you.


 


With a couple exceptions. 


1)  I KNOW the circumstances...and know I am NOT the bad guy. 


and


2)  I am STILL ALLOWED to be totally pissed off when some attorney wants documentation (that his client is under a court order to return ...yet has not done so a year later) which is the paperwork counterpart to blood, urine and stool samples from like 12 years ago...... 



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Yeah.....  I agree actually with both of you.   With a couple exceptions.  1)  I KNOW the circumstances...and know I am NOT the bad guy.  and 2)  I am STILL ALLOWED to be totally pissed off when some attorney wants documentation (that his client is under a court order to return ...yet has not done so a year later) which is the paperwork counterpart to blood, urine and stool samples from like 12 years ago...... 


 


Sorry for me asking but,,,, why the hell would you want stool sample results from 12 years ago anyway?



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Exactly my point....


 


This guys is wanting BILLS and RECEIPTS from over 10-12 years ago...


 


I realize it is just to piss me off...and make me jump through legal hoops.  I don't mind telling YOU that it worked....but he will NEVER know 



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