^5 chicks

Texas...

 

That is great news.

 

BBB

Straight Up wrote:

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I bet within the week,   you will be missing them and wanting them back...

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not a chance.

I will not be missing any of the following:

yelling, fighting in the middle of the night

doors slamming and knocking by god knows who during the entire day/night time.

and the friggin horns when they DONT open when they are pounding on the door.

the car's booming all that crap rap, and the endless -mindless people singing on the way up..on the way down the staris and the (and this sounds realy really bad) whores that are not even half way dressed tring to screw someone as they get back into the car. ( a string bikinki has a little more cloth then one of the girls I saw one time. she was in the car with 4 or 5 guys. Im sure she was sore. (she was white they were all black, it just made me wonder about saftey. but she was smiling)  (please dont take it as a racial statement. its a mix of whos coming up the stairs. I just thought it was werid that she was with all these guys, andn they were thugs. )

texaschickeee wrote:

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Straight Up wrote:
I bet within the week,   you will be missing them and wanting them back...

( a string bikinki has a little more cloth then one of the girls I saw one time. she was in the car with 4 or 5 guys. Im sure she was sore. (she was white they were all black, it just made me wonder about saftey. but she was smiling)  (please dont take it as a racial statement. its a mix of whos coming up the stairs. I just thought it was werid that she was with all these guys, andn they were thugs. )

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i cant believe i read this statement. while it is not a direct racial statement it generalizes a racial stereotype. what?! a white chick cannot mingle with black people? with out questions for her safety? and waht the hell do you mean by this "im sure she was sore"?

-- Edited by MP_handler at 16:18, 2006-02-20

Buttercup wrote:

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texaschickeee wrote: not a chance. I will not be missing any of the following: yelling, fighting in the middle of the night doors slamming and knocking by god knows who during the entire day/night time. and the friggin horns when they DONT open when they are pounding on the door. the car's booming all that crap rap, and the endless -mindless people singing on the way up..on the way down the staris and the (and this sounds realy really bad) whores that are not even half way dressed tring to screw someone as they get back into the car. ( a string bikinki has a little more cloth then one of the girls I saw one time. she was in the car with 4 or 5 guys. Im sure she was sore. (she was white they were all black, it just made me wonder about saftey. but she was smiling)  (please dont take it as a racial statement. its a mix of whos coming up the stairs. I just thought it was werid that she was with all these guys, andn they were thugs. ) Wow. Wow. Saying that you wondered about safety or thought it was weird because there were 4 or 5 strange guys (or thugs) and a girl in a car or coming up the stairs is by no means a "racial" comment. Pointing out the fact that she was white and they were all black (and thugs) turns that innocous comment into something else entirely. Who's safety were you concerned with, yours or hers? And I don't understand what you mean by saying "I'm sure she was sore." Because she's a white girl hanging out with 4 or 5 black guys? Or because if a white girl is hanging out with that many black guys, it must be because shes having sex with all of them one after another?

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the way they where hitting each other in the car. (sorry didnt put that in there) punching the crap out of each other like a game of chicken. she took one hit, almost went through the door, and then giggled. nothing of the other sort meant. also the fact that she was with all "thg like mattieral". doesnt matter if it was black, white , asian,  hispanic. they -the guys were covered in tats tht appeard to be gang related,. head rags (all red...bloods) and those in LE would have taken one look and known that they were up to no good. meth comes to mind whrn you saw how skinny she was..

Buttercup wrote:

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 Nice recovery -- Edited by Buttercup at 18:57, 2006-02-20

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          thanks

thaks eltson.

but as far as black is bigger and asians are smaller and all....the color of skin is just pigment. just as all males are differant sizes and shapes, so goes across the realms of colors. color is really skin deep.

 

but again I hope peeps in here reallyknow me better then that.

 

 

eltsacon wrote:

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Don't worry about it Texas! Trust me, you can't win with anti-racial type racial people. That is to say, they are so concerned with finding what might be racial, they loose the whole point of the story.

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As for bringing up the facts of the story, "colors", it did fill in the picture better.

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The whole point of the story was somewhat diluted by the omission of some of the facts, precisely why I asked questions instead of making statements, which is something that you seemed to realize as well.

eltsacon wrote:

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If anyone has lived next to that scenario, they know. Those who haven't, don't.
 

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I don't have to stick my hand into a flame to know that it will burn me, either.

eltsacon wrote:

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As for people bitching about your comment about the woman being sore because of the 5 guys. I would think so!!!! If not she must have her own built in Lube Company.

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Texaschickeee never said that was the reason. Again, that is why I asked the question that I did.

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The fact they are black,,, well, I don't see the relevance. 5 men would be allot I would think no matter what color they are. I don't know, maybe some of the people complaining like 5 guys and don't see your problem and logically assume you must be stating it on the stereo typing of "blacks are bigger". If that’s the case I wouldn't worry about it. They obviously have their own fears and they need to deal with.

 

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I don't see the relevance in those statements at all. Wasn't it obvious that I was going on the stereotype that black men can't resist having sex with white women? J/K
I don't fear black men or big penises, if that's what you're trying to imply. I fear intolerance and ignorance. I fear bigots. I fear them every day of my life, regardless of their race. And I deal with it by knowing that there's nothing that I can do to change their thinking, so I rarely try.

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And since it’s now brought up,,, on average they are. Its well known. Just as it’s well known that Asian people have the opposite trait.  Its not racial, its just a fact.
 

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It wasn't brought up until now. So it's a fact? Have you done extensive research on this? I'd like to see your proof. I am constantly amazed when I hear this, regardless of the race of the person making the statement.

eltsacon wrote:

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Saying someone is black, is also not racial, it’s a fact, (if they are,.)
 

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Stating an individual's race is certainly not a racist comment. It is racial, because it is of, or relating to race.

eltsacon wrote:

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Don't let other people petty fears bother you.
 

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On this we agree.

zap wrote:

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*note to self:  Self, only use RED letters on GREY background if you are pissed at someone and want to give them a headache or a seasure*

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Haha, sorry zap, I only used red to be sure that my comments could be distinguished from eltsacon's.

eltsacon wrote:

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Stating an individual's race is certainly not a racist comment. It is racial, because it is of, or relating to race.
 
I don’t say this to be mean,,, really. But that is the dumbest thing I have heard yet. First of all, you can’t acknowledge a race unless you specify the race. And your honestly telling me that “stating a individual’s race is certainly not a racist comment” BUT “it is racial because it is of, or relating to, a race”… WTF? So tell me in your wisdom, how the hell do you state a individuals race WITHOUT being of /or relating to a race? Geeezzzz. Seriously,, you have watched way too much jerry Springer. Opps, did I stereo type again?
 Now, I’m really am not trying to piss in anyone’s oatmeal here, it just bothers me to NO end when a person like Texas can say the simplest thing and every one throws the story out the window and screams racism!  That concept is worse then racism itself or at least of the same stature. AKA – (come against someone for the wrong reasons)
 
Now, I understand you’re a moderator and I am hoping you are,,,,, mature enough to see this as a important opinion that relates to much more then blacks. And with that I hope you don’t take this out with a kicking or what have not. What I find sad is we both seem to agree that racism is wrong, its just that I think your thinking on it is of the same nature, if not resulting in the same judgment thinking to another human, as basic racism.

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First of all, the fact that I am a moderator does NOT mean that I can just whisk someone away because I may not agree with what they say. That's not what we're about here. I may not like a post or a comment, but that doesn't give me the right to simply make it go away, and I resent your implication that it does. It seems there is a lack of maturity in the thought process that would even allow such a comment.

Second, I implore you..please re-read the sentence of mine that you quoted. Get someone to help you if necessary. I was using the dictionary definitions of the words "racist" and "racial." Putting it in language that a Jerry Springer fan would understand, a dictionary is a big book with standard and common descriptions and/or definitions of words large and small.

Racist is a noun or adjective derived from the word racism, which is defined as a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. It is also defined as racial prejudice or discrimination.


Racial is an adjective defined as of, relating to, or based on a race.



There is a world of difference between those two words. "Racial" used on its own has nothing to do with prejudice and has no negative connotation. "Racist" does.

Therefore, acknowledging someone's race, while it is indeed a racial comment, is not a racist comment.

And before you start slinging further accusations of my thoughts being that of basic racism, you might want to consider trying to understand what I've written even if you do not agree. I did not take your comments as being mean, but I did find some of them (specifically those about penis size) to be ignorant. In the literal, not colloquial sense of the word.



-- Edited by Buttercup at 21:20, 2006-02-20

Serenity now......

In my use of the sentence "That's not what we're about here," the word "here" is key. 

You turned this discussion into one of genetics, not me.  You have chosen to debate emotionally (i.e., name calling, character aspersions) as opposed to intellectually, not me.  There's a reason why people do that.  

As I'm sure you're well aware, statistics and anecdotal evdience can be found to support anyone's opinion on anything.  I could post at least 10 different documented studies within minutes to disprove your opinion, and the same number to disprove mine.  We could be trading study results for years.  However, you might want to take a look at a few of those studies and re-evaluate your argument.  Note that I said your argument, not your opinion.  There's a difference. 

I am very well versed in the American histories of both whites and blacks. You've chosen to include a snippet of fact along with undocumented anecdotal evidence and a splash of your opinion.  That's all well and good, but I know where one ends and the others begin. 

I respectfully leave you to your opinions.  Enjoy the forum.

 

No penises, black or white, were harmed in the writing of this post.

 

KatScratch wrote:

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Buttercup wrote: No penises, black or white, were harmed in the writing of this post.   ROFLMAO!!!!!! Nice BC

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Well, if I was half as smart as I wish I was,,,, I would simply say. ok. But I have to just say one last post on this. You hammered me about "just spitting opinions", but then also “knock down” a simple thing like “bringing up genetics”. ??? Then your telling me basically I’m wrong because there is always facts to support both sides of any issue. Though that may be true, what does that mean from a discussion point of view? That everyone is right, and wrong all the time? And talking about it is a waste of time?

So, facts seem to be ill relevant, and your saying emotion has no place in it either? Ok, facts don’t matter, feelings don’t matter. Huh. Then the name calling… Well you got me there. Though I think I might of said idiot once, and it wasn’t toward you. Just as you used the word bigots, which I don’t think was toward me. Now before you give me your trained  collage speech on the difference of between the two, like it or not they both exist. And in my opinion, there are more idiots then bigots. Present company excluded of coarse.

 

I must say, though your, “arguments” seem to run in circles and are very careful not to come to any rock solid conclusions, they are well thought through. I respect that more then anything else on earth.

 

And I LOVE the ending of your last post.

-- Edited by eltsacon at 19:21, 2006-02-21

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Well, if I was half as smart as I wish I was,,,, I would simply say. ok. But I have to just say one last post on this. You hammered me about "just spitting opinions", but then also “knock down” a simple thing like “bringing up genetics”. ??? Then your telling me basically I’m wrong because there is always facts to support both sides of any issue. Though that may be true, what does that mean from a discussion point of view? That everyone is right, and wrong all the time? And talking about it is a waste of time? So, facts seem to be ill relevant, and your saying emotion has no place in it either? Ok, facts don’t matter, feelings don’t matter. Huh. Then the name calling… Well you got me there. Though I think I might of said idiot once, and it wasn’t toward you. Just as you used the word bigots, which I don’t think was toward me. Now before you give me your trained  collage speech on the difference of between the two, like it or not they both exist. And in my opinion, there are more idiots then bigots. Present company excluded of coarse.   I must say, though your, “arguments” seem to run in circles and are very careful not to come to any rock solid conclusions, they are well thought through. I respect that more then anything else on earth.  And I LOVE the ending of your last post. -- Edited by eltsacon at 19:21, 2006-02-21

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The only conclusion I was trying to reach was the end of this thread. 

Yes, I do think that you're wrong, and you find fault with my opinion, too.  So what?  I can't change your mind, nor will I attempt to do so.  Is white vs. black penis size worth further discussion?  Not to me, and not in this venue.  Part of that is because you seem to be misinterpreting my words a bit, and I don't enjoy discussions when I must continually define my vocabulary.  You do not understand what I meant by saying emotion vs. intellect. I even made a point of noting the difference between "argument" and "opinion" to facilitate your understanding of that statement, but from your post I realize that the distinction has not been made.  I've even overlooked your misspelled words, because IMO the intent is far more important than the means of conveyance.  

Should we continue to "debate," we will end up going around and around in circles, and frankly I just don't see the point.  To come to a solid conclusion, we'd have to determine if "size" is defined as length, circumference, flaccid, erect, etc.  We'd have to determine what percentage of a man's genetic make-up determines whether he is considered black or white, and what percentage of that is directly related to his penis.  Then we'd have to look at various studies and statistics and determine which are valid.  We might even have to do field research.  I just don't have time for all of that.  I know when to stop, and how to be respectful and amicable.

As for my "trained collage speech," as you put it....my communication skills were honed long before I went to college, but thank you for noticing. 

Now bring on those sharks with the laser beams on their heads, please.

-- Edited by Buttercup at 13:27, 2006-02-22