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entre new


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Hello everyone.  I am stopping in here only briefly.  My internet connection (as well as cable tv) is out until Tuesday.  I have driven to a wealthy neighborhood (which I figured would have the most wireless connections), and am sucking off of someone's connection in order to check my mail. Does anyone know whether that's legal or not? 

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I believe that is referred to as "leeching" and it's illegal only if you get caught.

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I think it would be legal, they have not secured their wireless network which means you are treating it as a hotspot, as long as you don't try to access any of their information you should be fine.

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I think sparky is correct.  While it is not something to be particularly proud of doing....I don't think it is illegal unless you try to crack into a secured network or get into files that are on someones computer.

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Thanks everyone. 


Zap, I'm not necessarily not proud of what I'm doing because I'd have no problem with it if someone in the same circumstances did it to me.



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If there's a library or a Starbucks nearby that might be more comfortable.

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Sitting in his car should be quite comfortable though, lol.

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I tried the library thing, but they close early on weekends.  Don't you have to pay at Starbucks?  It's after 1 a.m. now and I'm back in the rich neighborhood trying not to look suspicious.  There are tons of unsecured networks here.

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entre new wrote:
I tried the library thing, but they close early on weekends.  Don't you have to pay at Starbucks?  It's after 1 a.m. now and I'm back in the rich neighborhood trying not to look suspicious.  There are tons of unsecured networks here.


This has got to be the funniest thing I have read on here in a while. You are such a dork Entre. But a funny one.

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USofAcop maybe making a valid point with the cuffs

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Yah know....a guy in Ohio was arrested for sitting in his car "leeching" a few months back. He wasn't accessing their files or anything, just surfin and checking his mail.....

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we charged someone a few months ago who was sitting in someones backyard with their laptop leeching a signal..only thing at the time we could have charged him with was tresspasing. it's such a new fad sorta speak that there are few laws that are specificly writing for such issues

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If you do some searching on the net you will find 100's of people have been busted for that! Yes, it is illegal. Personally, I don't believe it should be. It's no different then finding a dollar on the road somewhere. If a person doesn't want his connection used, he should secure it. BUT the ISP's seem to be the one making the fuss.

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yeah, if your signal reaches into my house then i should be able to use it right? since technically it's on my property

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Well, that's kind of how I look at it. However since all of this falls under different communication acts,,, who the fuck knows.. From what I can tell, even the people directly evolved in it can't agree yet.



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yeah, if your signal reaches into my house then i should be able to use it right? since technically it's on my property
Dam good arguement..never thought of that angle..think it could hold up in court???? LOL.....

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i dont know, i havn't heard of anyone using that arguement yet. just wait untill the FCC gets invovled and requires wireless owners to get a license to broadcast their signal

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KatScratch wrote:

MP_handler wrote: yeah, if your signal reaches into my house then i should be able to use it right? since technically it's on my property Dam good arguement..never thought of that angle..think it could hold up in court???? LOL.....

Yea, well, so is the signal form all the CIA satellites!!! I double dog dare ya to buy the equipment to listen to that, or at least try to preach “trespassing” when the men in black suits show up at your door. LOL



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ZAP, where are you?  Grace us with your wisdom!

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Yes, of coarse. He has the scoop on everything. Just ask him. He’ll tell yea. LOL  What’s your take on this zap?



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Notwithstanding you two asses....


 


The question I have is what really is being stolen?


I understand that there will a reduction in bandwidth and speed because of the leeching, but the bandwidth will still be there for the user.  Why would this reduction be any different than the reduction of bandwidth available for cable internet subscripers when the network becomes full?


There is no purpose to deprive the 'owner' of the service.


Additionally, who is the victim?  The cable company is getting paid.  The subscriber is still getting priority service which they can certainly secure from unwanted access if they choose to do so.  Right?


Telecommunications fraud requires the purpose to defraud.  I don't think that is the issue here as it would be by connecting cable without paying for it.


While I would certainly frown on the practice of leeching myself, what laws are being broken?  Additionally, if you look at the privacy aspect, what is the person with the unsecured network doing to protect their private access to the signal?  Nothing.  Which would lessen any expected privacy they might have.


 


Interesting debate...I don't have my mind made up on this one as of yet.


 



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Uh oh Entre, I hear woo woo's.

-- Edited by plushleather at 15:24, 2006-04-02

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one thing is for sure..you would be really dumb to leave a signal open. it's too easy for someone to intercept the signal and read word for word what is being sent to and from the computer

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Plush, I told you to save the cuffs for later.

And I want to say the term is war driving or something like that when it comes to leeching.

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E-N, I suggest if the cops do show up, that you just drive off really fast. I have seen this done on TV, and it works.

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USofAcop wrote:
E-N, I suggest if the cops do show up, that you just drive off really fast. I have seen this done on TV, and it works.




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Photogrrlz wrote:




Plush, I told you to save the cuffs for later.




Your cuffs hurt, I don't like them. I prefer straps.

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plushleather wrote:


Your cuffs hurt, I don't like them. I prefer straps.


Well I do have various strappies.... Just choose your pleasure

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Photogrrlz wrote:

plushleather wrote:


Your cuffs hurt, I don't like them. I prefer straps.


Well I do have various strappies.... Just choose your pleasure


OMG I give up.

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