U.S. of A...SERIOUS questions

phoenixrose · Born-again Firebrand

U.S. of A...SERIOUS questions

USofGay · I feel entitled, so answer me darnit

phoenixrose wrote:

I have a SERIOUS question...and I'm not kidding now. Honestly.

Okay, USof A, being newer to this forum, I don't know you all that well. You claim to be gay...right? Seriously, are you? Half the time I think you're kidding, but if you REALLY are, I need some advice from you.

Honey, I have sucked more cock then TC!!!

Yes, i am gay.

phoenixrose · Born-again Firebrand

Okay...here's my problem.

I have a young man in my classroom...11 or 12. A REALLY nice kid. I like him a lot. But, he's been going around telling everyone he's gay, and has a bf. Well, I personally don't have a problem with that...but I know middle schoolers. They will crucify the kid.

I don't know how to help him....what to say....the best direction to guide him in. I don't understand what he is going through or feeling, so I don't know how to reach him to help him.

I just thought, you might be able to give me some insight or advice.

If you don't want to...I'll understand. I just don't know how to help this kid, and I REALLY want to. He deserves a break.

USofGay · I feel entitled, so answer me darnit

phoenixrose wrote:

Okay...here's my problem.

I have a young man in my classroom...11 or 12. A REALLY nice kid. I like him a lot. But, he's been going around telling everyone he's gay, and has a bf. Well, I personally don't have a problem with that...but I know middle schoolers. They will crucify the kid.

I don't know how to help him....what to say....the best direction to guide him in. I don't understand what he is going through or feeling, so I don't know how to reach him to help him.

I just thought, you might be able to give me some insight or advice.

If you don't want to...I'll understand. I just don't know how to help this kid, and I REALLY want to. He deserves a break.

I have no issues talking with you about this.

First, you are right, they will more then crucify him. If the kids are anything like when I was in school, then he has a hard road ahead of him. I had my first dick at about that same age, but I didn't come out until after I got out of the Army at 21. Today, the world is a little more accepting, so I am not sure how it will be accepted. It also depends on where in the world you are. Here in Cali, it would be no big deal, sure some would make fun of him, but it is not out of the norm here. In Texas or Alabama, he may as well tie his own rope.

How has this been received thus far? Is he for real with this or is he just seeking attention? Is this "boyfriend" in the school as well? What type of school is this? Are his parents aware?

eltsacon · I have seen USofA's big balls

OUTCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bit my tongue.......

USofGay · I feel entitled, so answer me darnit

eltsacon wrote:

OUTCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bit my tongue.......

Come on Econ, join in.

USofGay · I feel entitled, so answer me darnit

Here is a great resource. They are sure to have a local group that can guide you and give you advice and reference material.

www.pflag.org

phoenixrose · Born-again Firebrand

Think Heartland of America....Nebraska...town of 12,000.

In a school of about 550 kids, he's already started getting a lot of teasing, and it will only get worse. I am not sure if this kid...we'll call him Darrel...really understands what he's claiming or not. It might well be a means of getting more attention, or he may really care for some kid as a close friend, and misperceive it as LOVE...Gay Love. I don't know.

The boy he claims is his BF, is in the same school, and has been going around saying Darrel is gay, trying to focus attention away from himself by making fun of Darrel. We've discussed it on my Team (4 teachers), and feel notifying parents is the first step, so they can help him deal.

I don't want to hurt Darrel inadvertently, or say/do the wrong thing. If he is gay, than he is. He needs to understand what the implications of that are, and how to cope in the world he's living in right now. He also needs to know how to protect himself. I have no clue even where to start with him, because I don't have an understanding of where he's coming from. I may cross over now and again, but I am definitely heterosexual, so I have no foundation to draw from to advise him.

I have to leave for my second job here in a few minutes, but I'll be on later tonight. Any advice you can give me will be greatly appreciated. If you want to call my cell and talk, I would appreciate that, too. Whatever. I appreciate whatever insight you can give me on this. Thanks.

phoenixrose · Born-again Firebrand

USofAcop wrote:

Here is a great resource. They are sure to have a local group that can guide you and give you advice and reference material.

www.pflag.org

I'm at school right now, not home. My school computer won't allow me to access this site, but I'll check it out later tonight when I get home. Thanks.

USofGay · I feel entitled, so answer me darnit

phoenixrose wrote:

Think Heartland of America....Nebraska...town of 12,000.

In a school of about 550 kids, he's already started getting a lot of teasing, and it will only get worse. I am not sure if this kid...we'll call him Darrel...really understands what he's claiming or not. It might well be a means of getting more attention, or he may really care for some kid as a close friend, and misperceive it as LOVE...Gay Love. I don't know.

The boy he claims is his BF, is in the same school, and has been going around saying Darrel is gay, trying to focus attention away from himself by making fun of Darrel. We've discussed it on my Team (4 teachers), and feel notifying parents is the first step, so they can help him deal.

I don't want to hurt Darrel inadvertently, or say/do the wrong thing. If he is gay, than he is. He needs to understand what the implications of that are, and how to cope in the world he's living in right now. He also needs to know how to protect himself. I have no clue even where to start with him, because I don't have an understanding of where he's coming from. I may cross over now and again, but I am definitely heterosexual, so I have no foundation to draw from to advise him.

I have to leave for my second job here in a few minutes, but I'll be on later tonight. Any advice you can give me will be greatly appreciated. If you want to call my cell and talk, I would appreciate that, too. Whatever. I appreciate whatever insight you can give me on this. Thanks.

PM me your #

Plush · Make believe Slutty Zombie/Official TOP Drama Queen

USofAcop wrote:
PM me your #

Phone Whore!!!!!!!!!!

USofGay · I feel entitled, so answer me darnit

The last thing that you want to do is make the kid feel bad for expressing who he is, if in fact he is gay. That is one of the hugest hurdles for gay kids, and why suicide rates are so high amongst gay teens. Being a rural Bible Belt town will most certainnly not help things, and I have a feeling that his parents will not be all that receptive to the idea. Matthew Sheppard ring any bells? The other issue at hand is where does the school draw the line at being involved in this. While it is absolutely the schools duty to protect the child, you must be careful where you step and not step on the parents toes and go againts anything they wish, even if it is full of denile on their part.

phoenixrose · Born-again Firebrand

Phone WHAT?

NEVER! You must be mistaken!

Number on board. Thanks US.

-- Edited by phoenixrose at 17:44, 2006-10-24

USofGay · I feel entitled, so answer me darnit

Plush wrote:

USofAcop wrote:

PM me your #

Phone Whore!!!!!!!!!!

Personal attack personal attack....

USofGay · I feel entitled, so answer me darnit

Plush wrote:

USofAcop wrote:

PM me your #

Phone Whore!!!!!!!!!!

Hijack hijack..... waaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!

Plush · Make believe Slutty Zombie/Official TOP Drama Queen

phoenixrose · Born-again Firebrand

Okay...gotta go to work...sigh.

Later, and thanks.

USofGay · I feel entitled, so answer me darnit

http://www.pflag.org/fileadmin/schoolhouse_-_final.pdf

May need some glasses to read this one.

USofGay · I feel entitled, so answer me darnit

www.glsen.org

Website for educators dealing with GLBT kids

USofGay · I feel entitled, so answer me darnit

www.safeschoolscoalition.org

www.matthewsplace.com

Easy Eman · Mr. Cool

eltsacon wrote:

OUTCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bit my tongue.......

Better than biting the 'head' like USofA

USofGay · I feel entitled, so answer me darnit

Easy Eman wrote:

eltsacon wrote:

OUTCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bit my tongue.......

Better than biting the 'head' like USofA

Did I just get gay bashed?

ManImBored · Mack Daddy

USofAcop wrote:

Easy Eman wrote:

eltsacon wrote:

OUTCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bit my tongue.......

Better than biting the 'head' like USofA

Did I just get gay bashed?

That could be a hate crime

entre new · Et tu, Brute?

I'd like to know how E knows that you bite.

woodbutcher · Giggidy, giggidy, gig-gi-dy!

entre new wrote:

I'd like to know how E knows that you bite.

Yea, I was wondering the same thing.

Straight Up · Beer please

If you really want to help this kid out ......

Teach him that dicks are for chicks .....

ejay · Bad, just plain bad

ManImBored · Mack Daddy

Straight Up wrote:

If you really want to help this kid out ......

Teach him that dicks are for chicks .....

Silly rabbit...dicks are for chicks

Straight Up · Beer please

ManImBored wrote:

Straight Up wrote:

If you really want to help this kid out ......

Teach him that dicks are for chicks .....

Silly rabbit...dicks are for chicks

Try ......

Silly fagot ..... dicks are for chicks

And thank you for brining the parents in as a first step .....

-- Edited by Straight Up at 05:28, 2006-10-25

USofGay · I feel entitled, so answer me darnit

Straight Up wrote:

If you really want to help this kid out ......

Teach him that dicks are for chicks .....

See PR, this is the type of ignorance this kid will have to deal with.