On a serious note and all jokes aside, he's not as heartless as it would look to some. He just feels firmly in his beliefs surrounding suicide? And he knows I would be crushed if anything really happened to him....
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KatScratch wrote: On a serious note and all jokes aside, he's not as heartless as it would look to some. He just feels firmly in his beliefs surrounding suicide? And he knows I would be crushed if anything really happened to him....
Though that may be true, I have stronger believes about the concept of death. Therefore, I do not see it as most, and thus, don't get the emotions that others do about it.
Oh, I realize that about him, and I would never tell him that his views and beliefs on that subject are wrong. In fact, I would be interested in hearing them. I just feel that Eman's thread was not the right place for his comments. If it were merely a news article about a suicide, that's one thing. But the fact that Eman mentioned that it was a friend and/or former coworker makes it about the loss of a friend and not simply a news story. It's more than the headline or thread title reads. And I don't want to derail that thread any more.
-- Edited by Buttercup at 14:22, 2006-10-27
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Buttercup wrote: Oh, I realize that about him, and I would never tell him that his views and beliefs on that subject are wrong. In fact, I would be interested in hearing them. I just feel that Eman's thread was not the right place for his comments. If it were merely a news article about a suicide, that's one thing. But the fact that Eman mentioned that it was a friend and/or former coworker makes it about the loss of a friend and not simply a news story. It's more than the headline or thread title reads. And I don't want to derail that thread any more.
-- Edited by Buttercup at 14:22, 2006-10-27
I agree 100% on leaving it out of E-man's thread!
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eltsacon wrote: Though that may be true, I have stronger believes about the concept of death. Therefore, I do not see it as most, and thus, don't get the emotions that others do about it.
Well dear...feel free to let it loose here in a non-personal kind of way.
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KatScratch wrote: On a serious note and all jokes aside, he's not as heartless as it would look to some. He just feels firmly in his beliefs surrounding suicide? And he knows I would be crushed if anything really happened to him....
Though that may be true, I have stronger believes about the concept of death. Therefore, I do not see it as most, and thus, don't get the emotions that others do about it.
WTF are you talking about? Your 17 and still superman. Hold someone's brains in your hand or watch a baby die in front of you no matter how hard you try to keep her alive, then we'll talk about death.
ejay wrote: WTF are you talking about? Your 17 and still superman. Hold someone's brains in your hand or watch a baby die in front of you no matter how hard you try to keep her alive, then we'll talk about death.
17????? Ummmm, raise the bar baby. He's not referred to as "Geezer" for nothing....LMAO
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KatScratch wrote: On a serious note and all jokes aside, he's not as heartless as it would look to some. He just feels firmly in his beliefs surrounding suicide? And he knows I would be crushed if anything really happened to him....
Though that may be true, I have stronger believes about the concept of death. Therefore, I do not see it as most, and thus, don't get the emotions that others do about it.
WTF are you talking about? Your 17 and still superman. Hold someone's brains in your hand or watch a baby die in front of you no matter how hard you try to keep her alive, then we'll talk about death.
Chat about death? How about watching 10 brothers you lived with since boot camp killed and no way to stop it. It doesn't matter who you are or who they are, friend or co-worker, that person still touches your soul in some way that cannot be explained. They will still be missed and deserve to be remembered with honor!
It may seem cold, but I have never shed a tear over anyone's death. Sure, I feel bad when people are hurting (including my grandmother who rot away from cancer a few years ago) but better places await.
I may sound like a nut, but these people are luck they are not going to be here on the planet when you need a mark to buy or sell. That time will come sooner than you think.
I hope my eternal vacation will come soon as I am really getting tired of dealing with the flesh.
Well, for "17" I have seen an incredible amount of death. Some personal friends, family, others people I didn't know from shit. Some were good people and some were assholes. The shock factor of watching a person die does change you, seeing people that are dead, or worse yet, that have been dead a while changes your perspective even more. Now, we can talk about the weird feelings as to "what" and "why" all day. Doesn't change a thing. People are just animals by nature. AND the only thing that sets them apart in any way is the exact thing people don't want to talk about, or believe in! So, I don't give shit on other peoples take because they think they are the only one's that understand because "they have been there!".
Now, butter. To be honest, I do realize my statements in that thread were considered, "off base." But I have found that the only thing that "sometimes" gets through to people about having lack of "kooth"(sp?) is to dish it back at them at a different angle to expose both. AKA (common sense). I don't know e-man, and I can tell he took offence and that’s not where my statements were directly point to. Though I do understand his take on it. Am I sorry? hummm, don't know. Before I could answer that I would want to know the real reason he posted it. If it was truly to get sympathy, then no. A forum might be a place to get it, but NOT a place to expect it!.
It may seem cold, but I have never shed a tear over anyone's death. Sure, I feel bad when people are hurting (including my grandmother who rot away from cancer a few years ago) but better places await.
I may sound like a nut, but these people are luck they are not going to be here on the planet when you need a mark to buy or sell. That time will come sooner than you think.
I hope my eternal vacation will come soon as I am really getting tired of dealing with the flesh.
Well, if you are going to say that, then you also have to say, so can worse!
Chat about death? How about watching 10 brothers you lived with since boot camp killed and no way to stop it. It doesn't matter who you are or who they are, friend or co-worker, that person still touches your soul in some way that cannot be explained. They will still be missed and deserve to be remembered with honor!
hummm. You know wood, I have to honestly say, that is one of the few things I will admit to not truly having a understanding too. Watching people die, (by itself) is one thing, but to be in a situation in which you have just as much of a chance to be next is another factor on top of it that I have to admit, I can not (not as of yet) relate too. Nor do I want to really. War is something in a class by itself and it isn't one of those things where someone who had a "paintball war" can say they can relate to. For that, hats off. And I don't mean that in today’s, "respect and support the troops" horseshit! I mean that from a "just trying to imagine the horror of it".
Chat about death? How about watching 10 brothers you lived with since boot camp killed and no way to stop it. It doesn't matter who you are or who they are, friend or co-worker, that person still touches your soul in some way that cannot be explained. They will still be missed and deserve to be remembered with honor!
hummm. You know wood, I have to honestly say, that is one of the few things I will admit to not truly having a understanding too. Watching people die, (by itself) is one thing, but to be in a situation in which you have just as much of a chance to be next is another factor on top of it that I have to admit, I can not (not as of yet) relate too. Nor do I want to really. War is something in a class by itself and it isn't one of those things where someone who had a "paintball war" can say they can relate to. For that, hats off. And I don't mean that in today’s, "respect and support the troops" horseshit! I mean that from a "just trying to imagine the horror of it".
Smart man E-con, war IS in a class by itself! Today's conflict is nothing like the Viet Nam conflict. these kids today don't have to deal with the jungle , swamps or the pungee sticks, like the one I stepped on, smeared with chicken sh*t or poison.They have desert warfare now just like WW2 in N. Africa.
I would be happy to tell you about "jungle warfare" sometime! In the mean time watch "Apocolypse Now".
1. It may seem cold, but I have never shed a tear over anyone's death. Sure, I feel bad when people are hurting (including my grandmother who rot away from cancer a few years ago) but better places await.
I may sound like a nut, but these people are luck they are not going to be here on the planet when you need a mark to buy or sell. That time will come sooner than you think.
2. I hope my eternal vacation will come soon as I am really getting tired of dealing with the flesh.
1. When you stand over YOUR child's grave, you will feel differently. When you stand over the grave of someone whose death rips out a piece of your soul, you will feel differently.
2. When you get a woman that can f.u.c.k. your brains out they way they deserve to be f**ked...you WILL feel differently.
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