I'm out of ideas.

Centurion44 · charges-like-rhino

I'm out of ideas.

Cold Zero · Moldy

Religion is the biggest mass murderer ever.....................

Ooooops sorry you said no religion

Centurion44 · charges-like-rhino

Although loath religion, I wouldn't say that. I would amend that statement to say "More people have died in the name of religion than anything else."

And before them flaming starts, I'm not talking about one's beliefs. I'm talking about religion.

zap · texaschickeee translator

Prima Fascia....that is a very accurate statement.

Cold Zero · Moldy

In the name of you say huh? Hummm how many people did Hitler actually kill himself and how many were killed in his name???

Bread Styx · Bad Bread!!

What came first ..the chicken or the egg?

zap · texaschickeee translator

Styx wrote:

What came first ..the chicken or the egg?

Doesn't matter...they are both good if you put enough salt and pepper on em

Bread Styx · Bad Bread!!

But seriously...what do you think about that 62 year old woman who just had a baby. This is her 12th child. She is a grandmother, great grandmother and this is her second child with her 48 (I think) year old husband. I dont know how many times she has been married......

Look up the story if you need more info.

I want to know if you think it is selfish of her young husband to expect her to have children. The child was concieved through in-vitro fertilization which I dont have a problem with...thats a marvel of science, in my opinion.. I have friends who have done that and it quite rigourous. Even though she was willing to do this......dont you think hubby is a bit selfish for wanting a child with her, much less a second so that his child will have a sibling.

KatScratch · Bad kitty....in the best possible way

Centurion44 wrote:

I want to debate on something, but nothing comes to mind. Generally I stay away from abortion and things like gay marriage because they ultimately degrade into a religious issue and go nowhere fast. Any ideas?

jump back in the kids/guns thread.....I would love to see what you think now that its run all over..... (Yes, I actually asked for your opinion even after we bumped heads on the tatts.....I like to hear diverse views....not just the PC things to say)

On a side note....anything similar with that issue where you're at? I put that in the thread, but no one has really answered that question at all?

slopegrrrl · Who me?

Forced sentencing guidelines, criminal rehabilitation, school uniforms, the 1st amendment as it relates to hate groups, homeowner associations, restricted beach access, government funded healthcare/education...

slopegrrrl · Who me?

....what's better to dip french fries in: ketchup, mayonaise, or ranch dressing?...

GPOC · Yeah babycakes, I'm back

slopegrrrl wrote:

....what's better to dip french fries in: ketchup, mayonaise, or ranch dressing?...

easily it's mayo

texaschickeee · Seductively Sassy

ranch dressing.

for the record.

zap · texaschickeee translator

Now...are we talking fries....or...umm....ahhh...desert *slygrin*

texaschickeee · Seductively Sassy

debate this...

mcdonalds is now having to state tht their fries have more transfat then believed, have carsetacens (pel) and are unhealthy.

who would have ever belived that FAAST FOOD'S fries would be vbad for you.

WTF?

and then we can debates whats better.....

regular chocolate or white chocoolate.

my vote first, white chocolate.

its smooth, its rich and creamy and its not as sweet to me as the other chocolates. (my mom knows what this chickeee likes)

rooster · Fresh Meat

slopegrrrl wrote:

....what's better to dip french fries in: ketchup, mayonaise, or ranch dressing?...

BBQ sauce on the fries, of course

Centurion44 · charges-like-rhino

Cold Zero wrote:

In the name of you say huh? Hummm how many people did Hitler actually kill himself and how many were killed in his name???

I suppose I should qualify my statement. When I say more people were killed over religion, I'm not talking strictly numbers. I'm talking per capita in relation to the population of the world at the time. For example, I'm sure there weren't even 55 million people on the planet at the time of the Crusades, but that's how many people died in WWII.

To answer your question, CZ, I would argue that since WWII was started to take Hitler out of power, then a small percentage of that 55 million was killed in "Hitler's" name. They more mostly killed in the name of Germany, USA, and in the case of 6 million Jews, Atheists, and homosexuals, their religion and beliefs.

-- Edited by Centurion44 at 23:14, 2006-02-22

Centurion44 · charges-like-rhino

KatScratch wrote:

jump back in the kids/guns thread...?

I started going cross-eyed when the posts started taking up a quarter of page. I'll check for any points you wanted to specifically address, but y'all were getting as bad as me over there.

KatScratch · Bad kitty....in the best possible way

They highjacked my thread and turned it into a paper wadd throwing thread!

I would like some peeps to comment on the "how and/or whys" LE or military would be good instructors. You are active LE correct? There was a comment made that LE hasn't got the experience to deal with teens, I was greatly confused by that comment. I know quite a few officers and they have a great repore with teens. And I was wondering if anyone has heard of anything similar in their state....

I'm trying to re-claim mt thread....but it requires a "group" effort....LOL

eltsacon · I have seen USofA's big balls

Sorry Kat. I just hate people that toot their own horn so loud you can't here anything else. LOL Goooooooooood Night!!! Though, at the end he did say he got them so he can teach. Which is clearly not how he lives with them but, I have to admit he's is trying to do something which is cool. Just not sure what?

Centurion44 · charges-like-rhino

I just hate people that toot their own horn so loud you can't here anything else.

Exactly. Especially when it's over who learned what, where. And especially when it has nothing really to do with the topic at hand.

zap · texaschickeee translator

eltsacon wrote:

Sorry Kat. I just hate people that toot their own horn so loud you can't here anything else. LOL Goooooooooood Night!!! Though, at the end he did say he got them so he can teach. Which is clearly not how he lives with them but, I have to admit he's is trying to do something which is cool. Just not sure what?

Well....in that case I guess I should mention that I find it rather rude and assinine when people attack the person rather than their ideas.....which, if they would have SHUT THE FUCK UP and listened rather than whining about the qualifications being worthless....they would have gotten the concept first time around.

..........then again....maybe not.......some just don't get it no matter how many times or ways you explain something to them

-- Edited by zap at 15:07, 2006-02-23

eltsacon · I have seen USofA's big balls

ZAP - Well....in that case I guess I should mention that I find it rather rude and assinine when people attack the person rather than their ideas.....which, if they would have SHUT THE FUCK UP and listened rather than whining about the qualifications being worthless....they would have gotten the concept first time around.

And as mentioned again, and again, and again, you are not your certs. You my sleep with them everynight, but they are not who you are. Geeeezzzzz. Clueless.

zap · texaschickeee translator

eltsacon wrote:

ZAP - Well....in that case I guess I should mention that I find it rather rude and assinine when people attack the person rather than their ideas.....which, if they would have SHUT THE FUCK UP and listened rather than whining about the qualifications being worthless....they would have gotten the concept first time around. And as mentioned again, and again, and again, you are not your certs. You my sleep with them everynight, but they are not who you are. Geeeezzzzz. Clueless.

And...as I have said...you still don't have a clue. I have been saying that all along... you just can't let it go. Get a clue...and a life.

foxfyre · Buttercult Founder

Liberal democracy is neither liberal nor a democracy. Discuss.

Centurion44 · charges-like-rhino

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage."

foxfyre · Buttercult Founder

Good one!

Cold Zero · Moldy

Centurion44 wrote:

Cold Zero wrote: In the name of you say huh? Hummm how many people did Hitler actually kill himself and how many were killed in his name??? I suppose I should qualify my statement. When I say more people were killed over religion, I'm not talking strictly numbers. I'm talking per capita in relation to the population of the world at the time. For example, I'm sure there weren't even 55 million people on the planet at the time of the Crusades, but that's how many people died in WWII. To answer your question, CZ, I would argue that since WWII was started to take Hitler out of power, then a small percentage of that 55 million was killed in "Hitler's" name. They more mostly killed in the name of Germany, USA, and in the case of 6 million Jews, Atheists, and homosexuals, their religion and beliefs.-- Edited by Centurion44 at 23:14, 2006-02-22

Your looking at it from the US view (why WWII started) for us Europeans it was that hitler was gonna ake control over Europe and start with his "master race" build up. Thank god the USA showed up (Canada to ofcourse) to save the day. But what i mean is that you COULD say that it is an example of how easily the public can be made to believe in and follow one person. Especially in an era of no internet, CNN and mobile phones. Hitlers proves that you don´t have to be a genius or for that matter have any sane ideas to get a following. It´s by knowing when to say what to say and to whom. The guy was a totall nutcase but everyone loved his ideas because in them they (the real arian people) would get more power. In fact you could say he became a religious leader. Now if you go back 2000 years back in time and have people in the same miserable conditions as the german people were in when Ahole showed up to spread his filth, it´s not hard to imagine somebody showing up taking advantage of that 2000 years ago. In fact it still happens all the time.

Ok now consider that most crusades were to retake some holy city, artifact or rescue prisoners. And to plunder, rape and pillage everything darker then yoghurt along the way. So apart from the soldiers killed in name of religion let´s look at what happens along side that. Men are conscripted into the army so the farms can´t produce enough foods. Army takes all the food it needs leaving less for the citizens. Thus child deaths grow. Diseases are brought in by the invaders, stripe off some more. Invaders kill citizens as they "don´t follow the true god so we can hurt, rape, kill them etc without penalty." Living conditions worsen and in those days bumping your toe could mean dying of infection so you do the math. 55 million i have no idea of but don´t forget the crusades lasted a helluvalot longer then WW1 and 2 combined.

Your turn

Centurion44 · charges-like-rhino

Cold Zero wrote:

Your turn

If you're talking to me- did you have a point? If so, I missed it completely.

-- Edited by Centurion44 at 13:33, 2006-03-02

Cold Zero · Moldy