that works for me

Baseball Babe wrote:

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sparky wrote:
sorry for hijacking the thread you started, at least you had found out what you wanted to find out before we took it over.

 
have fun hijacking it....

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Oh we are, this is what we do best, hope you don't really mind BBB.

MP_handler wrote:

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i sure as hell mind

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If you go back to the start of the thread, you will notice that it would of practically been a dead thread after the first three posts.

Post 1, BBB asked a question.
Post 2, MP answered it.
Post 3, BBB acknowledged the answer.

Thread should now fade away into the corner of TOP, but it didn't because we all kept it going.

It could of been one of those threads that never got past the first post, which always makes me feel sorry for the person who started it, but as it was it turned into a very active thread so quit complaining MP and enjoy it!

MP_handler wrote:

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i sure as hell mind

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Oh, just relax.

KatScratch, any Norton product is a resource hog, which slows down a computer beyond belief, also most of the computers that I work on in my spare time as a tech type hobby that have really bad infections are normally running Norton, alternatives, even free alternatives can prove to be so much better.
The war against viruses, malware, hackers etc is a war that will never be won but with the right help it can be fought against, which is what MP and myself is trying to do.

Norton is a big resource hog. The files are bloated up to 60mb for a complete install. and it also takes a lot of RAM slowing systems down, especialy older machines. It has a poor anti-virus diffinition and only offers updates once a week at best. Norton also includes rootkits to hide certain diffinition files from windows itself. the install of the rootkits has become a hiding place for viruses using the files to hide behind. the installation of the rootkits has been frowned upon by security experts since it's discovery. also when uninstalling Norton it will break certain aspects of Windows that includes corruption of Permissions and Bits.

hmm.....I have had to uninstall Norton every other year or so when I buy the new version, so far I guess I have been the lucky one. I do use their removal tool from their website though when I do the uninstall. Could it be because I run Windows 2000 Pro? 2000 Pro has been rock solid for me (way better than the old win 98).

sorry....rootkits????? Not sure exactly what that is????

45 processes (I have a lot of shit open), 1% CPU usage, Mem Usage 247516k/2217996k

Rootkits are super hidden files that can contain trojans and other malware. Rootkits are hard to detect becouse they are small files and are not even detected by Windows

excerpt taking from Wikipedia:

A rootkit is often used to hide utilities used to abuse a compromised system. These often include so-called "backdoors" to help the attacker subsequently access the system more easily. For example, the rootkit may hide an application that spawns a shell when the attacker connects to a particular network port on the system. Kernel rootkits may include similar functionality. A backdoor may also allow processes started by a non-privileged user to execute functions normally reserved for the superuser. All sorts of other tools useful for abuse can be hidden using rootkits. This includes tools for further attacks against computer systems the compromised system communicates with such as sniffers and keyloggers. A common abuse is to use a compromised computer as a staging ground for further abuse. This is often done to make the abuse appear to originate from the compromised system or network instead of the attacker. Tools for this can include denial-of-service attack tools, tools to relay chat sessions, and e-mail spam attacks.

A recent example where a rootkit was used on commercial CDs for digital rights management purposes is the 2005 Sony CD copy protection controversy.

-- Edited by MP_handler at 23:04, 2006-03-18

-- Edited by MP_handler at 23:13, 2006-03-18

actually i do this on my spare time, and i enjoy helping people with cleaning out infected computers.

here is a excellent trojan and malware scan that you can use. i use it often to help clean out infections. its free and very effective.

http://www.ewido.net/en/onlinescan/

can I ask one more stupid question?

45 processes (I have a lot of shit open), 1% CPU usage, Mem Usage 247516k/2217996k
 is this bad? I have Norton av and internet security running in the system try along with neowatch. I have 3 browsers open, winamp, soundforge6 rippin some songs, and frontpage.

I am just gonna say MP. You are pretty fuckin cool. And handy to have around. First person calls me an asskisser and I am full Fuck you mode.

My video card, ATI Radion, has 3 processes running as does my Sound Blaster Live. I have a wireless netowrk card that runs 2 processes, Norton is running 7 (as you said) Neo watch is running as a service, my HP printer/scanner has 2 services, but i exit them when I'm not using it. Windows 2000 has some services running in the background for every single browser I have open....the list is long...45 processes (I multi-task well). I have over a gig of ram in this lil puppy so it really hasn't bogged on me yet.

I noticed the speed problem with Norton IS when I had dial-up, but since I have broadband, it hasn't been an issue anymore, not for what I do on the internet.

I'm running that scanner you posted....so far so good!