Just so you don't have to do the research, here is my original post. OH, and at the bottom there is a post from CTR, someone who has served this Country in the military. We all have our missions and goals in life, none no better then others, but experience has some value in this situation. A follow up question is not an attack!
Anyone else see the common theme here. He works at the YMCA, and now he wants to be a sailor. Ooops no hijacking. Sorry. Toby - The Navy sucks for Law Enforcement. They are the Navy Command is the most restrictive when it come to letting their people do police work. The Navy has led the way to converting to a civilian police operations, (meaning sailors aren't doing the police work) yet they still have their hands tied as to what they are allowed to do. The bright side of the Navy is that few sailors have been killed in our current war(s). IF you join the Marines or Army as an MP, you are most certainly going to go to war. I admire anyone who wants to serve their Country. My Army unit (MP) went to Desert Sheild/Storm, it was not pretty, it was not fun. Don't go in thinking that you are going to be sitting all clean and smelling good in some police car somewhere stateside waiting to get involved in the next big capper on post. All branches of the military have been mandated by the Pentagon to convert LE operations to civilian forces to allow the service memebers to concentrate on combat related duties and training. The MP corps for both the Army and the Marines have long histories of being understaffed, and with the recruiting problems going on now, it is even worse. The Airforce has two very distinct different MOS's (job) for SP, ones mission is LE, the others in Flightline security and combat related. Again, the AF has been mandated to convert LE operations, so I would guess that many of them are being forced to change jobs. I don't know this for a fact, I have not spoken to an AF SP in along time. If I were making this decision, I would go in the Coast Guard. TONS of valuable experience, they do LE daily (providing you are not dumb enough to pick "cook" as your job). Tough and honorable decision. PM me if you have any questions you don't want to ask here. P.S. If you go int he navy, I have a good source for soap on a rope
FROM CTR:
Toby, I'm with most of the respondents here. This might be good for you. You're young and nothing really to tie you down. Plus if you have a degree from college it is most likely you could go into basic as an E-3 or an E-2 instead of an E-1 like everyone else. Translation--more pay and higher rank. The military likes team players. Also it would be easier to get that LE job you've been wanting because a lot of police depts out there look for previous military experience and that could be the edge you need to make yourself look better that all of the rest of the applicants. LE wants to be sure that their potential applicants can stand on their own and make the right decisions. I also would be more inclined to go with the Army or Marines. Sure you might see combat but Army and Marines generally get more breaks and respect than the rest. Except around Navy bases. Listen to USAcop, for once he has said something right.
cd3kd wrote: What's with all the crap with... "Edited for not meeting forum standards." What did I miss? Oh nothing much, our grammar left a little to be desired that's all. lol
LOL, yea, yea, grammer, that's it!!!! Some people are really annal about "grammar". LOL
USofAcop wrote: Toby, did you talk tot he Coast Guard? WARNING: To all that these shall presents, the above is considered to be an attack on a furture freedom fighter. BEWARE! SAHM will protect the poor little darling! All this time I thought that something that ended with "?" was a question. Where have I gone wrong? Oh, wait, did I just attack myself? Damn it, I did it agian!
LOL, don't you hate that? Do it all the time. Sucks!
On a more serious note, I do know allot of people that were in the navy, and during the summers I deal with the coast guard a great deal. That being said, if you want to serve (just to serve) then the navy probably is the safest branch to serve in with the type of wars we fight these days. Now, if you are wanting to serve for the training,,,, well let me tell you, the coast guard are nothing but cop's that float with bigger guns,,,,,,, and attitudes. Perfect training ground.
Congrats Toby. I hope you come away knowing alot more about yourself and what you want out of life. Good luck and be safe. And I hope you don't leave too soon. I might miss you and that will suck.
wrote: cd3kd wrote: What's with all the crap with... "Edited for not meeting forum standards." What did I miss? Oh nothing much, our grammar left a little to be desired that's all. lol LOL, yea, yea, grammer, that's it!!!! Some people are really annal about "grammar". LOL
Thanks guys for all your best wishes and congrads.
As far as Econ and USA, go fuckin hijack another thread. NOT THIS ONE. Also USA its MY CHOICE whether or not I wanna go into the Coast Guard or Navy. AND CTR sorry dude I didn't wanna take your advice, but I thought, prayed about it. No matter what one I choose, I can never win.
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Thanks guys for all your best wishes and congrads. As far as Econ and USA, go fuckin hijack another thread. NOT THIS ONE. Also USA its MY CHOICE whether or not I wanna go into the Coast Guard or Navy. AND CTR sorry dude I didn't wanna take your advice, but I thought, prayed about it. No matter what one I choose, I can never win.
you know what babe you do win you are doing what you want. It doesnt matter what anyone else thinks but what makes you happy . Dont worry about anyone else but you its your life. and when you suck the shit outta my ass spit it in a glass for a certain someone to drink lmao hahaha
Thanks guys for all your best wishes and congrads. As far as Econ and USA, go fuckin hijack another thread. NOT THIS ONE. Also USA its MY CHOICE whether or not I wanna go into the Coast Guard or Navy. AND CTR sorry dude I didn't wanna take your advice, but I thought, prayed about it. No matter what one I choose, I can never win.
What the fuck? The man seems to be under some PRESSURE!!!! ME thinks. Apparently you are only interested in the "good luck, best wishes, and congrads", and nothing else. So, "best wishes with the navy who will first teach you there is no such thing a good luck, and not to expect congrads!" Trust me, it's a good thing.
proudcowife wrote: you know what babe you do win you are doing what you want. It doesnt matter what anyone else thinks but what makes you happy . Dont worry about anyone else but you its your life. and when you suck the shit outta my ass spit it in a glass for a certain someone to drink lmao hahaha
Toby101 wrote: Please tell me it ain't so, that these are the fuckin assholes that I will be fighting for there freedom and shit, I would throw you in the same pool after I throw Bin Laden in. USofA go to hell. O yea, Please don't tell me that these are the fucking assholes that are out there fighting for our freedom!
you have a pm because i have way to much respect for photo and toby for this thread to be fuked up
eltsacon wrote: Toby101 wrote: Please tell me it ain't so, that these are the fuckin assholes that I will be fighting for there freedom and shit, I would throw you in the same pool after I throw Bin Laden in. USofA go to hell. O yea, Please don't tell me that these are the fucking assholes that are out there fighting for our freedom! you have a pm because i have way to much respect for photo and toby for this thread to be fuked up
Thanks PCW, for showing respect for Photo and I. I wish two other people would do the same thing.
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eltsacon wrote: Toby101 wrote: Please tell me it ain't so, that these are the fuckin assholes that I will be fighting for there freedom and shit, I would throw you in the same pool after I throw Bin Laden in. USofA go to hell. O yea, Please don't tell me that these are the fucking assholes that are out there fighting for our freedom! you have a pm because i have way to much respect for photo and toby for this thread to be fuked up
Don't play Ms. Inocent. You are the one that started this crap! AGAIN, where does asking a FOLLOW UP QUESTION make an "attack" ??? I propose to you and TOBY to show me the error in my ways and I shall erase all that I have posted. Go ahead show me.
proudcowife wrote: eltsacon wrote: Toby101 wrote: Please tell me it ain't so, that these are the fuckin assholes that I will be fighting for there freedom and shit, I would throw you in the same pool after I throw Bin Laden in. USofA go to hell. O yea, Please don't tell me that these are the fucking assholes that are out there fighting for our freedom! you have a pm because i have way to much respect for photo and toby for this thread to be fuked up Don't play Ms. Inocent. You are the one that started this crap! AGAIN, where does asking a FOLLOW UP QUESTION make an "attack" ??? I propose to you and TOBY to show me the error in my ways and I shall erase all that I have posted. Go ahead show me. Waiting.......
Mark i am really sorry hun but this needs to be said.....
Yeah and its dropped but you keep bringing it up like an ass. Stop acting like a child grow up get over it move on yadayada yada. Seriously how old are you ..
USofAcop wrote: Waiting....... Only thing your waiting for is your free vacation provided by the MODS. Hope you have a lot of fun on the beach.
Believe me, it hasn't escaped me that you are crying to them already.
Show me where I attacked you. AGAIN, I will be more then happy to post for all the world to see that I was wrong, and remove everything else that I have posted. Hell, give me your address I will mail you a $1000.00 check if you can show me where I attacked you in this thread.
Congratulations Toby.. I haven't talked to you in a long time..
... its great that everyone wants to help you by bringing up different ways of looking at the situation... the more minds the greater area covered...
Asking for opinions, concidering them, and then making up your own mind regarding what you believe is the best for you, says a lot in favor of your inner strength, convictions, and vision of what you want for your future. That is something that in reality only you can decide.
Hope you will stop in from time to time and let us know how you are doing. You have my e-mail if you need anything let me know.