Woman trapped in ATM

Zombie · seductively evil

RE: Woman trapped in ATM

sparky · Man Whore

Zombie wrote:

They need to move this thread. This isn't the right place for it.

The thread seemed to be ok and interesting until you and Asshole made an appearance, then it went totally off topic.

Plush · Make believe Slutty Zombie/Official TOP Drama Queen

I did move it at Zombie's suggestion. I should know to put anything with guns, babies, or child support here. Duh what was I thinking by trying to post a news story.

TJAW · Moldy

I am sorry that I caused trouble.

Plush · Make believe Slutty Zombie/Official TOP Drama Queen

TJAW wrote:

I am sorry that I caused trouble.

It was no trouble to move. Just play nice people.

KatScratch · Bad kitty....in the best possible way

sparky wrote:

Zombie wrote: They need to move this thread. This isn't the right place for it. The thread seemed to be ok and interesting until you and Asshole made an appearance, then it went totally off topic.

Indeed Sparky! The article and TJAW's comments and questions were right on track. TJAW, don't apologize the the "munches".....ignore them. You have the right to voice your opinion and spark a debate, that's what this place is about. It's not always fun and games, there have been some very interesting debates presented here.

Zap, I saw you made a thread with some links, they have their place here, really. Don't let the "munches" highjack this.

On that note.....I agree that guns don't kill people, it's the person firing it. They make a choice to shoot or not. Sometimes they aren't given any other choice but to protect their life or the lives of their family. While I may not have a handgun in my home (I live outside of the city), I do own a shot gun (varmits). I have kids, and i just am not comfortable having a handgun in my home. I have educated my children, but choose not to own one is all. There are nut jobs out there that have guns, just because some guns fall into the wrong hands is not reason to keep them out of the hands of good citizens.

eltsacon · I have seen USofA's big balls

If I saw you walking down the street, and I had the intentions to rob someone, AND knew you even felt that way about guns, YOU WOULD BE FUCKED!!!!

zap · texaschickeee translator

I posted the links in One on One because they were intended to TJ...although other can certainly make use of them. I too thought that was a better place for the debate that would likely ensue.

However, now that we have changed the scenery....

Kat...I think you are correct in your position.

Let me ask my now relatively famous question.

"Why would a criminal by definition, care or be hindered from using a gun, if guns were restricted further or banned outright?"

KatScratch · Bad kitty....in the best possible way

eltsacon wrote:

If I saw you walking down the street, and I had the intentions to rob someone, AND knew you even felt that way about guns, YOU WOULD BE FUCKED!!!!

And if I were "walking down the street" I would probably have one of my dogs and you'd be surprised! *growl, bite, swallow* LOL Just because it's a woman, doesn't make her a victim yah know?

Zap, valid question and the answer is quite simple.....further restricting or banning guns within a population will only give criminals with a gun better opportunities and more victims. Unfortunately, there are those that believe otherwise and would have the "good guys" restricted rather than protected. Some will even go so far as to say, "it would be a safer place." Not if the criminals are the only ones with the guns!!!!

Monkey Proof · Buttercup is awesomesexycool and smelly too.

sparky wrote:

Zombie wrote:
They need to move this thread. This isn't the right place for it.

The thread seemed to be ok and interesting until you and Asshole made an appearance, then it went totally off topic.

eltsacon · I have seen USofA's big balls

KatScratch wrote:

And if I were "walking down the street" I would probably have one of my dogs and you'd be surprised! *growl, bite, swallow* LOL Just because it's a woman, doesn't make her a victim yah know?

LOL, dogs are slower then bullets! You would just be out your money, and one dog! LOL

KatScratch · Bad kitty....in the best possible way

eltsacon wrote:

KatScratch wrote: And if I were "walking down the street" I would probably have one of my dogs and you'd be surprised! *growl, bite, swallow* LOL Just because it's a woman, doesn't make her a victim yah know? LOL, dogs are slower then bullets! You would just be out your money, and one dog! LOL

LOL....you "quick draw MgGraw now???? You haven't seen my dogs either...LOL They're not very nice, but very well trained

eltsacon · I have seen USofA's big balls

Still not as fast as my bullet.

TJAW · Moldy

eltsacon wrote:

If I saw you walking down the street, and I had the intentions to rob someone, AND knew you even felt that way about guns, YOU WOULD BE FUCKED!!!!

You are not a very nice person. Why would you even think of robbing someone?

Photogrrlz · Buttercup Groupie

TJAW wrote:

How can you say that? A guard with a gun would have just escalated the whole thing. The robber would have shot first. Guns kill people and are so dangerous. I don't like them.

A guard may have been a deterrent for the suspect to rob her and the atm. FYI

Just like screening areas, not foolproof, but is a deterrent none the less.

Photogrrlz · Buttercup Groupie

TJAW wrote:

We as a country are all to quick to resort to guns. The UK does just fine without them, their police don't have guns. How come Canada doesn't have all the gun violence that we have. If there were fewer or no guns it wouldn't matter if it was the person or not.

Hmmm no guns, but the police officers get killed by guns. Oh BTW, they have specialized units that carry the guns, so yes there are officers with guns in the UK.

Photogrrlz · Buttercup Groupie

TJAW wrote:

You are not a very nice person. Why would you even think of robbing someone?

Actually its the people that think like that, reduce the chances of becoming a victim. Seems to me that Econ would think before throwing himself in a unsafe situation.

You know how many times I think of stuff. Not because I want to cause harm, but to prevent harm.

eltsacon · I have seen USofA's big balls

Photogrrlz wrote:

TJAW wrote: You are not a very nice person. Why would you even think of robbing someone? Actually its the people that think like that, reduce the chances of becoming a victim. Seems to me that Econ would think before throwing himself in a unsafe situation. You know how many times I think of stuff. Not because I want to cause harm, but to prevent harm.

ummmmmm, thanks? LOL

Ok, back to e-con mode,,,,,

TJAW wrote: You are not a very nice person. Why would you even think of robbing someone?

Yep that’s it. I'm just an ignorant ass that goes around robbing people for the fuck of it cause, from what plush tells me, I have no life so I find comfort in kicking the shit out of others... So, what’s your house address TJ? ROFLMAO!!!

zap · texaschickeee translator

KatScratch wrote:

And if I were "walking down the street" I would probably have one of my dogs and you'd be surprised! *growl, bite, swallow* LOL

Thats funny you should mention that Kat.... in a conversation with a retired LT from the Columbus PD just recently...he commented that while he was there...one drug dealer in particular was credited with causeing the deaths of 31 attack dogs.

After the SRT team shot the first few you would have thought he'd have caught on and quit thinking that attack dogs can go up against trained firearms practicioners with any other result.

-- Edited by zap at 18:14, 2006-04-01

KatScratch · Bad kitty....in the best possible way

I'm not saying my dogs are "super dogs" and bullets bounce off or anything. But, they are a deterrant in a lot of cases. People who own dogs and have them in their home aren't a "first choice" target most of the time. And if a criminal sees a person walking a dog (not the toy variation, a real dog) they tend to not want to be bothered and pick a different victim, well unless they are like a total nutt job, then I guess it wouldn't matter if they got bit a few times before they shot the dog????

My dogs are large breed and well trained. I feel safe walking them, but I also live outside the city?

zap · texaschickeee translator

I agree with you. Just thought it was interesting in light of the Lt's comment just a couple days ago. Deterent is the key word. Sort of like most watches are water resistent rather than water proof. Dogs, guns, knives, cars, baseball bats, attitude, et. al., are in the end only deterents that help if used properly and well.

KatScratch · Bad kitty....in the best possible way

No harm, no foul Zap, just thought you were saying that most peeps would shoot the dog and mug me anyway...... LOL I know they aren't faster than a speeding bullet, but they are handy little escorts

eltsacon · I have seen USofA's big balls

KatScratch wrote:

No harm, no foul Zap, just thought you were saying that most peeps would shoot the dog and mug me anyway...... LOL I know they aren't faster than a speeding bullet, but they are handy little escorts

RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!

The TRUTH of the matter is, the dog is giving you the false sense of security, and you're happy with that. Which is ok. But in reality, if a man with a gun picked you, that dog will make no difference! hehe

USofAcop · Banned

What the hell is this G-D tree hugger talking about! Guns are for crooks... to shoot them with!!! Good Grief, I go away and look what they let in!

Soylent · Fresh Meat

Typical, figures thieves would go after the least paid hardest working folks. Geeze you'd think theives would rob rich folk, not that its any better, but for people who don't have good jobs or a stable investment portfolio it hurts so much more.

steve354 · Fresh Meat

:From a Security Officers piont of view with 10 years under my blet. Very time a ATM is attended to here it is done by 5 armed Security Officers 2 at the a,t,m and the other three at different pionts all in good view of what is going on. This does not matter if they are putting in money or not. I have worked in shopping mall's banks. By the way I should piont out that i have never been armed in any way at all while working because I am not allowd to.

Why was she working on her own needs to be asked and what has the company got to say for its self also how did this person get inside the bank at that time of the morning. this all needs to be taking to account and untill these are answerd we will never know the full outcome of this unfortunated case.