So, here is some skinny, half drunk kid with his hands in his pockets and the Vegas cop expodes on him and jams him in the throat?
Tough guy
No, there is a skinny completely drunk adult with his hands in his pockets who already has attacked someone and is failing to follow oders of a Police Officer.
No problem with the out come of the problem he created at all.
So, here is some skinny, half drunk kid with his hands in his pockets and the Vegas cop expodes on him and jams him in the throat?
Tough guy
No, there is a skinny completely drunk adult with his hands in his pockets who already has attacked someone and is failing to follow oders of a Police Officer.
No problem with the out come of the problem he created at all.
C'mon, the kid was all mouth. If they just grabbed his arm, he would have whined and complied. Haven't you ever heard of the "escalation of the use of force" or "use of force continum? I thought you young guys were hung up on those types of phrases they make you memorize in the academy these days.
Was that Vegas cop so scared of that skinny kid with the pot head necklace that he had to cold-cock him like that?
No, there is a skinny completely drunk adult with his hands in his pockets who already has attacked someone and is failing to follow oders of a Police Officer.
No problem with the out come of the problem he created at all.
USofA, darling, don't feed the troll. Then maybe it'll crawl back under its bridge.
So, here is some skinny, half drunk kid with his hands in his pockets and the Vegas cop expodes on him and jams him in the throat?
Tough guy
No, there is a skinny completely drunk adult with his hands in his pockets who already has attacked someone and is failing to follow oders of a Police Officer.
No problem with the out come of the problem he created at all.
C'mon, the kid was all mouth. If they just grabbed his arm, he would have whined and complied. Haven't you ever heard of the "escalation of the use of force" or "use of force continum? I thought you young guys were hung up on those types of phrases they make you memorize in the academy these days.
Was that Vegas cop so scared of that skinny kid with the pot head necklace that he had to cold-cock him like that?
-- Edited by Hogboy at 20:22, 2006-11-06
-- Edited by Hogboy at 20:23, 2006-11-06
Not sure what the cop was feeling, i am not the cop. In my "use of force continum", it was completely justified. Of course I could have also OC'd him or Tazered him or beat him down with an ASP. Nothing says that a Police Officer has to hold the little darlings hand and ask him to cooperate and wait for him not to cooperate. Act before you have to react. If you are reacting, it is too late!
No, there is a skinny completely drunk adult with his hands in his pockets who already has attacked someone and is failing to follow oders of a Police Officer.
No problem with the out come of the problem he created at all.
USofA, darling, don't feed the troll. Then maybe it'll crawl back under its bridge.
Nice thinking, but he will be around until he is banned.
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So, here is some skinny, half drunk kid with his hands in his pockets and the Vegas cop expodes on him and jams him in the throat?
Tough guy
No, there is a skinny completely drunk adult with his hands in his pockets who already has attacked someone and is failing to follow oders of a Police Officer.
No problem with the out come of the problem he created at all.
C'mon, the kid was all mouth. If they just grabbed his arm, he would have whined and complied. Haven't you ever heard of the "escalation of the use of force" or "use of force continum? I thought you young guys were hung up on those types of phrases they make you memorize in the academy these days.
Was that Vegas cop so scared of that skinny kid with the pot head necklace that he had to cold-cock him like that?
-- Edited by Hogboy at 20:22, 2006-11-06
-- Edited by Hogboy at 20:23, 2006-11-06
Not sure what the cop was feeling, i am not the cop. In my "use of force continum", it was completely justified. Of course I could have also OC'd him or Tazered him or beat him down with an ASP. Nothing says that a Police Officer has to hold the little darlings hand and ask him to cooperate and wait for him not to cooperate. Act before you have to react. If you are reacting, it is too late!
I don;t know where you work (private security company maybe?), but where I work, we can't and SHOULDN'T whack somebody in the throat because they got a little mouthy. We are also not allowed whack them with an Asp for getting mouthy.
So, here is some skinny, half drunk kid with his hands in his pockets and the Vegas cop expodes on him and jams him in the throat?
Tough guy
No, there is a skinny completely drunk adult with his hands in his pockets who already has attacked someone and is failing to follow oders of a Police Officer.
No problem with the out come of the problem he created at all.
C'mon, the kid was all mouth. If they just grabbed his arm, he would have whined and complied. Haven't you ever heard of the "escalation of the use of force" or "use of force continum? I thought you young guys were hung up on those types of phrases they make you memorize in the academy these days.
Was that Vegas cop so scared of that skinny kid with the pot head necklace that he had to cold-cock him like that?
-- Edited by Hogboy at 20:22, 2006-11-06
-- Edited by Hogboy at 20:23, 2006-11-06
Not sure what the cop was feeling, i am not the cop. In my "use of force continum", it was completely justified. Of course I could have also OC'd him or Tazered him or beat him down with an ASP. Nothing says that a Police Officer has to hold the little darlings hand and ask him to cooperate and wait for him not to cooperate. Act before you have to react. If you are reacting, it is too late!
I don;t know where you work (private security company maybe?), but where I work, we can't and SHOULDN'T whack somebody in the throat because they got a little mouthy. We are also not allowed whack them with an Asp for getting mouthy.
Maybe you missed the DARK BOLD BIG UNDERLINED text above. We also can not "whack" becasue they are mouthy, but if you can articulate that they failed to follow directions and commands, then all is good!
I am not saying that it was the best alternative, I am just saying that it would be ok here.
If a cop tells me to do something, i do it. That kid shouls have just complied. Now i do believe that some cops go a little extreme, but in this case, no. If it's my life on the line, I would have done the same thing. Who knows what he had in his pocket.
KatScratch wrote: He's a bit slow USofA...he needs large text with simple definitions or he is completely lost...No, scratch that....he's just fuckin lost!
Kat,
your right, and maybe you can do something with this......its the best on short notice.
If a cop tells me to do something, i do it. That kid shouls have just complied. Now i do believe that some cops go a little extreme, but in this case, no. If it's my life on the line, I would have done the same thing. Who knows what he had in his pocket.
Although his FINGERTIPS were in his pockets, you could see the kid's hands were empty. He was standing there FLATFOOTED and OBVIOULSY was not getting ready to fight. Most experienced cops can pick up on signals wen somebody wants to go the hard way. This kis looked soft and docile to me. he was just a smart-mouthed,spoiled little upper middle class punk and there were TWO cops there. He was NOT GOING TO RESIST. I would bet big money on that. As soon as the cop grabbed ahold of his arm he would put his hands behind his back VERY quickly. Whacking somebody in the throat can cause serious injury or death. It could have collapsed his windpipe and killed him. If he had died from that whack in teh throat a jury would have put that cop in prison and that punk's family would be living off the taxpayers and living in the cop's house.
He used more force than was necessary to affect that arrest
If a cop tells me to do something, i do it. That kid shouls have just complied. Now i do believe that some cops go a little extreme, but in this case, no. If it's my life on the line, I would have done the same thing. Who knows what he had in his pocket.
Although his FINGERTIPS were in his pockets, you could see the kid's hands were empty. He was standing there FLATFOOTED and OBVIOULSY was not getting ready to fight. Most experienced cops can pick up on signals wen somebody wants to go the hard was. This kis looked soft and docile to me. he was just a smart-mouthed,spoiled little upper middle class punk and there were TWO cops there. He was NOT GOING TO RESIST. I would bet big money on that. As soon as the cop grabbed ahold of his arm he would put his hands behind his back VERY quickly. Whacking somebody in the throat can cause serious injury or death. It could have collapsed his windpipe and killed him. If he had died from that whack in teh throat a jury would have put that cop in prison and that punk's family would be living off the taxpayers and living in the cop's house.
He used more force than was necessary to affect that arrest
If a cop tells me to do something, i do it. That kid shouls have just complied. Now i do believe that some cops go a little extreme, but in this case, no. If it's my life on the line, I would have done the same thing. Who knows what he had in his pocket.
Although his FINGERTIPS were in his pockets, you could see the kid's hands were empty. He was standing there FLATFOOTED and OBVIOULSY was not getting ready to fight. Most experienced cops can pick up on signals wen somebody wants to go the hard was. This kis looked soft and docile to me. he was just a smart-mouthed,spoiled little upper middle class punk and there were TWO cops there. He was NOT GOING TO RESIST. I would bet big money on that. As soon as the cop grabbed ahold of his arm he would put his hands behind his back VERY quickly. Whacking somebody in the throat can cause serious injury or death. It could have collapsed his windpipe and killed him. If he had died from that whack in teh throat a jury would have put that cop in prison and that punk's family would be living off the taxpayers and living in the cop's house.
He used more force than was necessary to affect that arrest
So says you.
Next!
If you ever progress past airport security work and become a real cop, you might get enough experience to make the right judgements about when and how much force to use. Until then, you can share your tough guy stories with your security buddies and the friends you invite over to your mom's basement
If a cop tells me to do something, i do it. That kid shouls have just complied. Now i do believe that some cops go a little extreme, but in this case, no. If it's my life on the line, I would have done the same thing. Who knows what he had in his pocket.
Although his FINGERTIPS were in his pockets, you could see the kid's hands were empty. He was standing there FLATFOOTED and OBVIOULSY was not getting ready to fight. Most experienced cops can pick up on signals wen somebody wants to go the hard was. This kis looked soft and docile to me. he was just a smart-mouthed,spoiled little upper middle class punk and there were TWO cops there. He was NOT GOING TO RESIST. I would bet big money on that. As soon as the cop grabbed ahold of his arm he would put his hands behind his back VERY quickly. Whacking somebody in the throat can cause serious injury or death. It could have collapsed his windpipe and killed him. If he had died from that whack in teh throat a jury would have put that cop in prison and that punk's family would be living off the taxpayers and living in the cop's house.
He used more force than was necessary to affect that arrest
So says you.
Next!
If you ever progress past airport security work and become a real cop, you might get enough experience to make the right judgements about when and how much force to use. Until then, you can share your tough guy stories with your security buddies and the friends you invite over to your mom's basement
I'll take that into consideration the next time I am wiping my ass.
If a cop tells me to do something, i do it. That kid shouls have just complied. Now i do believe that some cops go a little extreme, but in this case, no. If it's my life on the line, I would have done the same thing. Who knows what he had in his pocket.
Although his FINGERTIPS were in his pockets, you could see the kid's hands were empty. He was standing there FLATFOOTED and OBVIOULSY was not getting ready to fight. Most experienced cops can pick up on signals wen somebody wants to go the hard way. This kis looked soft and docile to me. he was just a smart-mouthed,spoiled little upper middle class punk and there were TWO cops there. He was NOT GOING TO RESIST. I would bet big money on that. As soon as the cop grabbed ahold of his arm he would put his hands behind his back VERY quickly. Whacking somebody in the throat can cause serious injury or death. It could have collapsed his windpipe and killed him. If he had died from that whack in teh throat a jury would have put that cop in prison and that punk's family would be living off the taxpayers and living in the cop's house.
He used more force than was necessary to affect that arrest
-- Edited by Hogboy at 22:05, 2006-11-07
Well, as much as I hate to say it. I agree with hogboy here. Out of princible, I have to admit this. I could see his hands. He was just being stupid, not to mention he looked so fucked up he could hardly figure out what was going on. But, thats me.
If a cop tells me to do something, i do it. That kid shouls have just complied. Now i do believe that some cops go a little extreme, but in this case, no. If it's my life on the line, I would have done the same thing. Who knows what he had in his pocket.
Although his FINGERTIPS were in his pockets, you could see the kid's hands were empty. He was standing there FLATFOOTED and OBVIOULSY was not getting ready to fight. Most experienced cops can pick up on signals wen somebody wants to go the hard way. This kis looked soft and docile to me. he was just a smart-mouthed,spoiled little upper middle class punk and there were TWO cops there. He was NOT GOING TO RESIST. I would bet big money on that. As soon as the cop grabbed ahold of his arm he would put his hands behind his back VERY quickly. Whacking somebody in the throat can cause serious injury or death. It could have collapsed his windpipe and killed him. If he had died from that whack in teh throat a jury would have put that cop in prison and that punk's family would be living off the taxpayers and living in the cop's house.
He used more force than was necessary to affect that arrest
-- Edited by Hogboy at 22:05, 2006-11-07
Well, as much as I hate to say it. I agree with hogboy here. Out of princible, I have to admit this. I could see his hands. He was just being stupid, not to mention he looked so fucked up he could hardly figure out what was going on. But, thats me.
I never said that it was the best method, I simply said that it was justifiable if articulated correctly.
An agency that appears on COPS has full editing rights. LVMPD approved it to air, so I would assume that they had no or little issue with it.