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Should counties ban certain dogs?


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Death puts focus on dog regulation
Because there were no reports, county didn't pick up 2 pit bulls that mauled 4-year-old






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•Nearly one in four animal bites reported in Harris County last year involved children 10 and younger.

56 percent of the 1,301 animal bite cases reported were caused by unconfined animals. Pit bulls and pit bull mixes accounted for 214 of all cases — the largest share of any dog breed.


•Harris County's 14 animal-control officers pursue 20 to 25 stray dog complaints they receive each day.


Source: 2005 Harris County Public Health and Environmental Services annual report and county officials


The two pit bulls that fatally mauled 4-year-old Pedro Rios Jr. as he played near his home Tuesday were seen before by residents of his northeast Harris County neighborhood, but no one ever reported the dogs to county authorities.


Police investigating the boy's death think the animals were strays. County officials said Wednesday that they do not pick up strays unless they encounter them or receive a complaint. And before Tuesday's fatal attack, officials said they had not received any calls about the animals.


So far, no one has claimed ownership of the dogs. If an owner is found, that person could face criminally negligent homicide charges, said Harris County Sheriff's Lt. John Martin.


Residents of the King Parkway mobile home community where Pedro lived said it isn't uncommon for unattended dogs to wander freely in and out of the gated community because the front entrance is always open.


Maria Ramirez said her husband and three young daughters had seen the two dogs in recent days. They barked at residents, but they hadn't attacked anyone, she said.


Ramirez, who for a decade has lived next door to the Rioses, said she was "in shock. Apart from being my neighbor we saw each other as family."


"There's always a lot of children around here. It's a safe place, I don't know what happened," Ramirez said.


Attempts to reach the boy's parents, Pedro and Isela Rios, on Wednesday were unsuccessful. Family said funeral arrangements were pending.


Pedro was the first person to be killed by stray dogs in unincorporated Harris County in more than two decades, said Colleen Hodges, a spokeswoman for the county's Veterinary Public Health division.



County can't ban pit bullsHodges said that Harris County's 14 animal-control officers tend to focus on pursuing the 20 to 25 stray dog complaints they receive each day. Three animal-control-officer positions remain unfilled, although there are more field officers now than the department has ever had, Hodges said.


Harris County Commissioner Steve Radack said the state Legislature should give the county power to pass regulations on issues such as the types of pets residents can keep. He said he would entertain a limited or full ban on owning pit bulls if the state gave the county the power to pass such a regulation.


At present, under state law, the county doesn't have the authority to ban pit bulls or other breeds deemed dangerous.


Harris County Judge Robert Eckels was out of the country and could not be reached for comment.


In Texas, cities do have the power to pass regulations, and last month the issue of dangerous dogs prompted Houston City Council to update its animal ordinance for the first time in two decades.


The measure, pushed by Councilwoman Toni Lawrence, allows both neighborhood protection and animal-control officers to investigate complaints about dangerous dogs.


Those declared dangerous after a hearing must be registered, restrained and implanted with a microchip. Owners of the animals also must get $100,000 in liability insurance.


"We hope it acts as a spur to more responsible dog ownership and a deterrent to people who keep dangerous animals," said Frank Michel, a spokesman for Mayor Bill White.


More than half of the 1,301 animal bite cases reported were caused by unconfined animals.


Although area residents have said the pit bulls in Tuesday's attack were strays, statistics show that 73 percent of the Harris County biting animals reported last year had identifiable owners.


The increase in animal bites parallels a steep rise in the number of dogs impounded or abandoned in Harris County animal shelters, Hodges said.


Of those, a growing share have been pit bulls. The breed accounted for about 5 percent of all impounded dogs in 2000 but more than 16 percent in 2005.


"They've just infiltrated the dog population," Hodges said. "People are raising them with little to no knowledge of the breed. ... You're talking about a dog who can eat his way through a wooden fence in 20 minutes. You can't just leave them outside while you go to work."


In Tuesday's deadly attack, Pedro was playing with his 2-year-old brother, who managed to escape, as the dogs approached.


Upon hearing screams from her child, the boy's mother ran outside and tried to fight the dogs off her son, but the dogs refused to let go.


The dogs released him only after they were distracted by the lights and sirens of the patrol cars that arrived minutes later. Deputies shot the dogs, killing one and injuring the other, which was later taken into custody by Harris County Animal Control. The boy was flown to Memorial Hermann Hospital and died a short time later. The boy's toddler brother was with him before the attack but was able to run to safety.



Leash laws hard to enforceIt's tough to say what could have prevented the child from being mauled by the dog, said Amy Bures Danna, vice chairwoman of the State Bar of Texas' Animal Law Section.


Although leash laws are in place in Harris County, they are difficult to enforce, she said.


Ramirez said that "the managers are very careful." All residents are required to keep their pets caged or fenced, she said. The front office also asks for pet identification information, such as breed and color.


Rodney Covington, a manager of the mobile home park, said because police were still investigating the attack, he could not make any statements regarding the incident or their policies regarding pets.


Donal Swanner, who has lived in the mobile home park for 10 years, said "stray dogs coming in here — when we see it, we report it" to both the managers of the residential area and animal control authorities.


Swanner said sometimes it takes several hours for animal-control authorities to show up and by that time the dogs have wandered off. Though Swanner said he's phoned authorities in the past, other residents said they had never felt threatened by stray dogs, so they never called anyone.


One of the pit bulls remains at the county shelter, where it will be euthanized. Law enforcement officers shot the dog to subdue him. But he seemed undaunted Wednesday.


"Even with four gunshot wounds, he is standing up and staring people down," Hodges said.


Staff writers Matt Stiles and Chase Davis contributed to this report.


cynthia.garza@chron.com, bill.murphy@chron.com, anita.hassan@chron.com



 



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This sotry came out yesterday, I believe. The two stray pitts attck a mother and her 2 children, killing one and hurting both the other and her.


 


The Sheriffs shot both, one dies, (under a house crawl space,) and one as stated- starring people down, ready to fight. Of course no one has claimed them, they ahve been told they may face charges of injury to a child and neglect of an animal.


 


I personally am not a fan of  pits. I think that they are a huge liablity due to so many are fighting dogs, and so many people just hurt them due to that ffear.


I dont think that banning them owuld get rid of it, but something has to be done with annimal owners responsablity.


(we have a guy here tht is about 25. has 3 pits, and mates the one female often. his is like- thts 3oo a pup. When asked- you know most end up being strayed, or killed due to not wanting it- "not my problem, I got my money"/


 


what a fucking ass hole.



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There are not bad dog breeds, just bad owners!


I have owned Pitbulls, Rotts, Chows, etc. and there are not bad dogs, just bad owners. My daughter was 6 months old when I found Bud (2 year old pitbull) along the roadside. He had been fought and was badly injurred. I nursed him back to health and he was great with my daughter. She crawled all over him tugging and pulling on his face and he NEVER once eve growled at her. My German Rott (150 lbs) was there the day I brought my daughter home from the hospital and he NEVER so much as made a twitch her direction. He stood guard over her and babysat her. My Chow was there as well and later became her "teddy bear" and she NEVER showed any aggression EVER!


Dogs don't need regulated or outlawed....owners need slapped in jail and/or heavier fines for abuse/neglect. Hell a fucking toy breed can be more vicious at times than the alledged "dangerous" breeds!!!!!



-- Edited by KatScratch at 09:59, 2006-11-23

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I grew up with a german shepard next door.


I rode Major like a pony, and he was may teddy bear.


 


we are saying the same things KAt. I am all for fining the owners, jailing the dog fighters and going to town with people taht mistreat animals.....that just mkes me so mad....



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I agree with Texas and Kat, I beleive a dog is brought up how the owners want. I have a brittany spanial, what a great dog. Only thing it has harmed in the past is ducks about a mile from my house, when he would get lose he would run down there. No problem just a 100 $ fine, just because he is a bird dog. Now we also had two birds and he never should any aggression towards the birds. On the same note, his sister use to live about 2 blocks from my house, and that dog is an agressive dog. You can't even get close enough to pet her. What is that saying, great dog, bad owners. 

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I say it's time we start putting bad owners down and not the animals that have been trained to hurt and mistreated. I own a 100lbs German rot and I would leave her with my 1 year old in a heart beat. 

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      But, but, but, this is America! Land of the restricted and the afraid! And as you know, it better to be safe then sorry!!!!!!!!!  



-- Edited by eltsacon at 11:06, 2006-12-09

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eltsacon wrote:



      But, but, but, this is America! Land of the restricted and the afraid! And as you know, it better to be safe then sorry!!!!!!!!!  



-- Edited by eltsacon at 11:06, 2006-12-09



LOL...well then I guess they better shoot all the dogs, declaw all the cats, hell....just tell people they are no longer allowed to have pets!...It's for their own good, public safety and all!

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THATS RIGHT!!!!!!!!!  And recent studies shows the second hand pet owner-ness is even more dangerous then the real pet owners!!!!! LOL

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ROFLMFAO

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Hey! It's a statistic, it promotes badness and discriminates, and I heard it from more then one person,,,, it has to be true!!!! :)

-- Edited by eltsacon at 17:37, 2006-12-09

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BlackPony wrote:


I say it's time we start putting bad owners down and not the animals that have been trained to hurt and mistreated. I own a 100lbs German rot and I would leave her with my 1 year old in a heart beat. 



 thats because you and your daughter know this dog and understand how dog training comes about.


also she sees that both of you are in her pack therefore she protects. I was left with major (the german shepard) many times, that dog loved kids.


The pitt that did not get shot in this story was put down this week, the other was shot and killed. there is another neighbor hood that called the animal control over strays. Pitts are not welcomed in alont of areas but look at who owns  the dog,a nd go from there. again it goes back to- bad owners not bad animals.


next on my list the fuckers that breed them and dont care what happends after they get the cash.


(guy in my complex doing that. fucker )



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BlackPony wrote:


I say it's time we start putting bad owners down and not the animals that have been trained to hurt and mistreated. I own a 100lbs German rot and I would leave her with my 1 year old in a heart beat. 



 thats because you and your daughter know this dog and understand how dog training comes about.


also she sees that both of you are in her pack therefore she protects. I was left with major (the german shepard) many times, that dog loved kids.


The pitt that did not get shot in this story was put down this week, the other was shot and killed. there is another neighbor hood that called the animal control over strays. Pitts are not welcomed in alont of areas but look at who owns  the dog,a nd go from there. again it goes back to- bad owners not bad animals.


next on my list the fuckers that breed them and dont care what happends after they get the cash.


(guy in my complex doing that. fucker )




Sooooo, what you're suggesting is that if I buy a dog then the previous owners should keep an eye on me?????

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There are not bad dog breeds, just bad owners!






I agree.  I have had the pleasure of owning a doberman, a chow and a pitt/english bulldog cross, all were great loving dogs, never saw any agression in any of them.  And they were all rescues, strays that just decided that I should have them.  


There are people want dogs to be agressive, and they teach them to be that way.  I personally do not agree with this practice.  Most dogs are friendly and loving by nature unless they are taught otherwise or they have been abused or neglected by someone.  The practice of dog fighting pisses me off to no end, the people who do this should be hung out to dry, not just let off with a fine and maybe a little jail time. 



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Nah....dont ban them...just dont arrest me if I shoot a dog when it goes in attack mode; I dont care of its a pit or a poodle......threaten me and die.


Simple as that. 



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Bread Styx wrote:



Nah....dont ban them...just dont arrest me if I shoot a dog when it goes in attack mode; I dont care of its a pit or a poodle......threaten me and die.


Simple as that. 




AMEN!!!! Been there and done it! Took care of that nasty dog of the neighbors real quick...bang, bang and it was dead! No more trying to bite me on my property!

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